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    Okay well tomorrow is officially the last day of my cycle...i have been only on tren a and var this week stopped the test e last sunday...so this monday i am gunna start PCT and continue it for 8 weeks to be absolutely sure that my gear has FULLY cleared my system

    ....my question is about the HCG. I know that I need to wait until the test e has fully cleared my system before starting the HCG. So i ended it last sunday so if i start it in the monday after this one August 4th is that okay??? If i am gunna be on the nolva and other supps for pct is it ESSENTIAL that i start the HCG exactly when the test is cleared or is it okay to be like a week or two after it has cleared out when u start it???...basically will starting the HCG TOO late cause me to crash????

    Thanks guys,
    2-Swole

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    Re: An HCG question...

    I assume you mean tren enanthate. If so two weeks after your last shot start either 500iu's hcg for twenty days or 1,000iu's for ten days. I've run both with clomid and had similiar results. If its the short acting tren, start immediately.
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      Re: An HCG question...

      Originally posted by firstenrgy View Post
      I assume you mean tren enanthate. If so two weeks after your last shot start either 500iu's hcg for twenty days or 1,000iu's for ten days. I've run both with clomid and had similiar results. If its the short acting tren, start immediately.
      Okay bro...it is tren ace. sorry about that...do the same rules apply to wait two weeks after last tren shot to start HCG???

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        No, start right away since you are one week from your last inject. Of course discontinue the Var.
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          Re: An HCG question...

          you dont want to run hcg during pct...you need to run it up until you start clomid, or nolva and stop the hcg...start the hcg now and run for 2 weeks then start pctrunning hcg during pct is a very bad decsion...it will hinder recovery big time

          i run hcg throughout cycle once a week, thn eod after stopping up until my pct starts
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            Re: An HCG question...

            Originally posted by pigmeat View Post
            you dont want to run hcg during pct...you need to run it up until you start clomid, or nolva and stop the hcg...start the hcg now and run for 2 weeks then start pctrunning hcg during pct is a very bad decsion...it will hinder recovery big time

            i run hcg throughout cycle once a week, thn eod after stopping up until my pct starts
            I strongly disagree. I've had bloodwork done both ways and using the HCG with Clomid to start off PCT has brought me back to normal test levels faster time and again. This is even more true when you ran high doses of AAS or ran high anobolic/androgenic AAS (anadrol/dbol/tren). They shut you down hard amd you need HCG to recover in a reasonable time. Will you recover anyway just with Clomid... yes, but not as fast.
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              Re: An HCG question...

              you need to run it before u start clomid...running it at the same time you trick your nuts into thinking they already made enough test due to the hcg and stay shut down...always stop hcg a few days before clomid
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                am i reading the original posy wrong? seems like he was using TEST E and then finished with tren. if last shot of test e was last sunday then hcg should start two weels from last sunday and then after hcg start clomid or nolva.
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                  Re: An HCG question...

                  Originally posted by BigDawg View Post
                  am i reading the original posy wrong? seems like he was using TEST E and then finished with tren. if last shot of test e was last sunday then hcg should start two weels from last sunday and then after hcg start clomid or nolva.
                  I agree based on reading he was on 1,000mg of test per week. I start the HCG one week after and run it for 20 days at 500 iu's a day but I usually run 400mg per week of test. Clomid you really can't go wrong with as long as you have enough.
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                    Re: An HCG question...

                    HCG will increase estrogen levels, This is why Pigmeat is suggesting running it at the end of cycle prior to pct to kick start your testicles then roll to your full pct regimen. After long heavy cycles it can actaully hinder recovery but will kick testicular function in for short peroids.


                    Hope this helps


                    Akamai

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                      Re: An HCG question...

                      Originally posted by Akamai View Post
                      HCG will increase estrogen levels, This is why Pigmeat is suggesting running it at the end of cycle prior to pct to kick start your testicles then roll to your full pct regimen. After long heavy cycles it can actaully hinder recovery but will kick testicular function in for short peroids.


                      Hope this helps


                      Akamai
                      hcg also mimicks LH soyour body wont try and increase test production because it is fooled that lh levels are high.....counter productive to run hcg during pct
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                      • #12
                        Re: An HCG question...

                        Originally posted by pigmeat View Post
                        hcg also mimicks LH soyour body wont try and increase test production because it is fooled that lh levels are high.....counter productive to run hcg during pct

                        Well said.

                        Akamai

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