a pct question

[salbotzbotz]

i just ran 10 weeks deca 300mg per week
and am in my fifth week of test400 mg per week
i see no signs of gyno but someone should start taking my nolva for the next 5 weeks and run clomid 2 weeks after i finish my test
im thinking about adding 7 weeks of winny on to my cycle
should i wait or make my cycle a total of 25 weeks?


do i need to use the nolva?
are is just clomid ok ?

6' 1"
195
19 yrs
4 years exp
5-6% bf

[TSR1969]

No flame, but did you plan this out at all? You ran deca for 10 weeks with no test, then started test (what ester?) and when you are done with your test you are going to run winny? 15 weeks is a long cycle, and after 10 weeks of deca, even at only 300, you will be shut down. why do you want to use nolva while on if no gyno? if you are bloated that may help, but i dont know that 400mgs of test will aromatise that much requiring nolva. clomid depends on what ester of test ur using as far as when to start, 300/100/50 is how you should use it but i would def add some hcg b4 you start pct. was this your first cycle? 25 weeks is a long time to be on.

bump for some vets to help you with more info

[FUZO]

SALBOTZ YOUR CYCLE WAS ALL WRONG.YOU SHOULD OF RAN THE DECA AND TEST AT THE SAME TIME AND THE DECA SHOULD OF BEEN AT 400MG AND THE TEST AT 500MG. STARTED NOLVA FROM DAY 1 UNTIL YOUR FINISHED WITH PCT. HERES SOME INFO ON CLOMID AND WHEN TO TAKE IT


When To Start Clomid
The correct time to commence Clomid depends on the type and cycle of steroids you have been using. Different steroids have different half-lifes (indicates the time a substance diminishes in blood), and Clomid administration should be taken accordingly.

As we have seen above, Clomid taken when androgen levels in our blood are still high will be a waste. It is crucial to wait for androgen levels to fall before implementing our Clomid therapy. However, if taken too late we could possibly lose gains.

The list below determines when you should start Clomid. Select from the list any steroids you've used in your cycle and whichever one has the latest starting point is the time to commence Clomid. For example, if Dianabol, Sustanon and Winstrol were cycled, the time for administering Clomid should be 3 weeks post cycle, as Sustanon remains active in the body for the longest period of time.

Steroid Time after
last administration Length of
Clomid Cycle
Anadrol50/Anapolan50: 8 - 12 hours 3 weeks
Deca durabolan: 3 weeks 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 - 8 hours 3 weeks
Equipoise: 17 - 21 days 3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone: 3 days 3 weeks
Primabolan depot: 10 - 14 days 2 weeks
Sustanon: 3 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Enanthate/Testaviron: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days 3 weeks
Testosterone Suspension: 4 - 8 hours 2-3 weeks
Winstrol 8 - 12 hours 2-3 weeks


How To Take Clomid
Clomid has a long half-life (possibly 5 days), so there is no need to split up doses throughout the day. If Sustanon has been used and Clomid is commenced 3 weeks after the last injection, I would estimate that androgen levels are low enough to start sending the correct signals. If androgen levels are still a little high, we need to start at a high enough amount that will work or help, even if androgen levels are still a little high. Try 300mg on day 1; then use 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days.

[FUZO]

AND I THINK IVE MADE IT KNOWN THAT AT YOUR AGE YOUR TO YOUNG TO BE USING GEAR.IVE GOT A FRIEND WHOS 19 TOOK HIM UNDER MY WING AND TRIED TO EXPLAIN THE GOOD AND BAD OF USING HE DECIDED TO USE. DIDNT LISTEN TO ME ABOUT WHAT TO TAKE HOW TO TAKE IT WHAT SHOULD HE TAKE ECT. WELL AT 19 HE CANT GET A HARD ON THATS PATHETIC.AND I'M 36 AND GOT WOOD ALL THE TIME. EVERY BODY WANTS TO JUMP IN FEET FIRST. EDUCATE YOUR SELF UNTIL YOUR BLUE IN THE FACE.HES LIKE A LITTLE BROTHER SO THE NEXT TIME HE THINKS ABOUT USING I'M GOING TO SMACK HIM AROUND A LITTLE . THEN I'LL GIVE HIM A VIAGRA TO GET LAID.LOL

[RollPlayer]

FUZO- When taking Nolva & Clomid together what should the PCT delivery look like. I mean... What is the formula/dosage for both. Assume running TEST EN & DECA for 10 weeks. Thanks.

[salbotzbotz]

i ran deca for 5 weeks alone .. then added in

my cycle

WEEK 1-5
deca300qv
dbol 20 mg

Week 5 - 10
DECA300QV
T400

WEEK 10-15
T400
WINNY

P.S. I'M IN THE 11TH WEEK OF MY CYCLE AND I BONE MY GIRL EVERYDAY =)