pct's and bloat

[Card_Hock]

ok here's the deal

weeks 1-10 test enth
weeks 1-10 deca
i plan on running l-dex at .25 weeks 3-10 ED < is that ok> for bloat and gyno

and for my pcts
Nolva 3 weeks after my first shot of test <not sure what dose??> is running the l-dex going to effect how i run Nolva during pcts ?? and should i stop running the l-dex after the last shot, or just continue up to and during my pcts ??

[Got Gear?]

I would run the liquidex from weeks 2-13
Then stop the liquidex when you start PCT.

If you plan on using an oral or something else to "kickstart" your cycle, then I'd start the liquidex the same day you start your cycle.

[Card_Hock]

can i take the l-dex EOD ?? or does it need to be ran ED ?? and are there any sides that i should be aware of form l-dex or nolva ?? i have heard about some nasty sides from clomid is that true ??

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by Card_Hock
can i take the l-dex EOD ?? or does it need to be ran ED ?? and are there any sides that i should be aware of form l-dex or nolva ?? i have heard about some nasty sides from clomid is that true ??

It wouldn't be a drug if it didn't have side effect(s).

EOD for liquidex is fine. I just started my cycle and I'm running the liquidex much like you. 0.5cc (0.5mcg) EOD. Except I'm kickstarting with anadrol so I didn't wait a couple of weeks to take the liquidex.

Liquidex, clomid, and nolva are all anti-estrogens. Estrogen is needed in the body, so if you run too much anti-e's, you can run into problems with Blood presure, colesterol, and a few others. .25mcg ED liquidex shouldn't be too much.

Clomid can cause emotional swings, blured vision/tracers, and dizzyness. Personally, I've never experienced these sides, but others have.

So long as you don't over-do the anti-E's, you probably won't run into any negative side effects at all.

[Card_Hock]

can i just use .25 l-dex EOD ?? that stuff is a little expensive for me to run .25 ED or .5 EOD ?

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by Card_Hock
can i just use .25 l-dex EOD ?? that stuff is a little expensive for me to run .25 ED or .5 EOD ?

Yes you can. Your steroid dose is pretty low, so you should be able to get away with it. Just make sure you have some nolva incase gyno symptoms show up.

[Card_Hock]

see this is where i get confused Gear, i thought both nolva and l-dex were both anti-e's and did the exact same thing ....so why would i need nolva on hand for gyno, if i'm already using l-dex for that ?? and by l-dex we are talking about Arimidex right ?? sorry about my ignorance ....i just want to make sure i understand everything

[Card_Hock]

i have the option to get either liquid or tabs ...i'm sorta scared of liquid stuff ....how do i measure that stuff out ??

[Card_Hock]

how do you take the liquid ?? with juice ?? how does it taste ??

[Got Gear?]

In a nutshell:
Testosterone naturally converts to estrogen in our bodies. High doses of testosterone thus convert into high amounts of estrogen. We can controll this via 2 different methods.

1) use an "estrogen blocker" like nolvadex or clomid. These drugs do not effect the amount of estrogen in your body, but instead make it much less effective.

2) Use an anti-aromatose like Liquidex. These drugs stop the testosterone from converting to estrogen in the 1st place.

Both are very effective in their means. I suggest you have some nolva handy because at that low of a liquidex dose it's not going to completely block the conversion of test to estrogen. So you have the nolva handy incase you run into problems.

To dose the liquidex: Buy some 0.3cc insulin syringes. And measure out 0.25cc. It's suspended in almost pure alcohol and tastes nasty, so I usually squirt it into a shot glass then fill the rest of the glass with fruit juice. Don't buy tablets as they generally come in 1mcg tabs and your going to have a hard time spliting them buggers into 1/4's.

[Massive1]

Originally posted by Got Gear?
It wouldn't be a drug if it didn't have side effect(s).

EOD for liquidex is fine. I just started my cycle and I'm running the liquidex much like you. 0.5cc (0.5mcg) EOD. Except I'm kickstarting with anadrol so I didn't wait a couple of weeks to take the liquidex.

Liquidex, clomid, and nolva are all anti-estrogens. Estrogen is needed in the body, so if you run too much anti-e's, you can run into problems with Blood presure, colesterol, and a few others. .25mcg ED liquidex shouldn't be too much.

Clomid can cause emotional swings, blured vision/tracers, and dizzyness. Personally, I've never experienced these sides, but others have.

So long as you don't over-do the anti-E's, you probably won't run into any negative side effects at all.

nice post

[Card_Hock]

thanks GG you are always very helpful ....