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    Okay, I have learned that many of you guys have respectible opinions/knowledge on cycles etc....so I figured I'd ask for yall's thoughts, opinions, flames and all
    I already have the EQ and Enan......I'm starting next week some time.


    1) QV EQ (2 10ml bottles) ---> wks 1-10 @ 400mg/wk (2 inj. per wk), but I'm kicking around the idea of making that last 12 wks because I read it's a slow-acting gear that will be better taken for longer doses, plus it's not thought of to be a "dangerous" gear to use for long periods. <----- do I have the right idea here?


    2) QV Enanthate 250 (2 10ml bottles) ----> wks 1-10 @ 500mg/wk (2 inj. per wk).

    3)20mg Nolvadex tabs ----> Not sure yet, but thinking of frontloading and tapering off......begining in the middle of cycle and finishing a few weeks after last shot <------ sound good, stupid, waste of time or doesn't really matter in a dramatic sence?

    As far as my anti-e idea.....I read too many negatives about clomid and I don't have time for goofy emotions and other sides that were mentioned about them Gyno is a concern, but not too dramatic seeing that I've "made it out ok" with several other test cycles with zero anti-e's <---- not making excuses, just wanna know if Nolv is sufficient.

    By the way, I'm 6ft @ 165 ("off") and I'm naturally vascular/lean with a high metabolism even at age 30. Previous test cycles of anywhere between 300-600mg/wk have consistently given me 18-22ish lbs. Those cycles were always tapered/pyramid. The taper was usually a poor job though with missed shot days. I'm sure I screwed with the half-lives of those cycles.

    When I'm on, I simply eat for calories and as much protein as time allows.....also about 1/2 gallon water per day.

    Anyway, that should be enough detail for now......let me know if not.

    All comments will be appreciated,
    Thank you!

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    your dosage IMO, is good....about the Nolva I DONT think its a bad idea to run it to prevent gyno but I would run it as follows....wk 13-15 would help for post cycle recovery without clomid...JMO

    wk 1-12 EQ 400mgs/week
    wk 1-10 Enanthate 500mgs/week
    wk 1-13 Nolva 10mgs/week
    wk 13-15 Nolva 60mgs 5days 40mgs 9days
    EVERYTHING I SAY IS ONLY AN OPINION.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by scorpion
      your dosage IMO, is good....about the Nolva I DONT think its a bad idea to run it to prevent gyno but I would run it as follows....wk 13-15 would help for post cycle recovery without clomid...JMO

      wk 1-12 EQ 400mgs/week
      wk 1-10 Enanthate 500mgs/week
      wk 1-13 Nolva 10mgs/week
      wk 13-15 Nolva 60mgs 5days 40mgs 9days

      Forgot to mention..... to get the EQ to stretch to 12wks, I'll need to taper it off the last couple weeks or so <----- what are some thoughts on doing that to EQ?

      For the nolvadex, is that 10mg's once a week (1-13)? With a 20mg tab, that's only 1/2 a tab per week. Is this what you mean?

      And is that 60mg *ea.* day for 5days.....?

      I'm interested in hearing all sorts of ideas, so keep them coming please
      Thanks!

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      • #4
        I would'nt taper the eq down I would just keep it to 10 weeks or get your self some more if you want to run it longer. Try drinking more water also, A half gallon a day is'nt enough. Clomid did nothing bad for me and I recovered pretty fast with it.
        Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups






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        • #5
          you need 10mg nolva every day.keep the estrogen level down!

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          • #6
            yeah just run the eq 10 weeks

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            • #7
              Originally posted by scorpion
              your dosage IMO, is good....about the Nolva I DONT think its a bad idea to run it to prevent gyno but I would run it as follows....wk 13-15 would help for post cycle recovery without clomid...JMO

              wk 1-12 EQ 400mgs/week
              wk 1-10 Enanthate 500mgs/week
              wk 1-13 Nolva 10mgs/week
              wk 13-15 Nolva 60mgs 5days 40mgs 9days

              this looks good IMO, no need to taper though...good luck with the QV gear kid

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bowbow
                I would'nt taper the eq down I would just keep it to 10 weeks or get your self some more if you want to run it longer. Try drinking more water also, A half gallon a day is'nt enough. Clomid did nothing bad for me and I recovered pretty fast with it.

                Yeah, I know my water is low dosed, lol compared to a lot of bros.
                It's just that my daily schedules have always kept me from being able to eat and drink at optimum levels.....so, I'm usually winging it when it comes to nutrition, which is why I'm glad my body isn't picky about actual food quality I dont think I'd ever have time to go on a serious BB diet if I HAD to.



                So.........anymore thoughts? Aside from the cycle itself, I'd like to compile all this as part of my newbie-skin shedding

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                • #9
                  you need to wait 3 weeks after your last EQ shot before starting post cycle therapy. 2 weeks after the Enanthate.

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                  • #10
                    I'd also pick up a 10K IU vial of HCG and run that during the cycle.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by AustinTX
                      you need to wait 3 weeks after your last EQ shot before starting post cycle therapy. 2 weeks after the Enanthate.


                      Yeah, thanks for reminding me.........That's the part that f*cks me up Some say to start *during* and others say to start after the shit *begins to wear out* of your system....etc etc.

                      But that's why I'm interested in many different thoughts.....as I repsect them all however, ultimately I'll just have to choose just one style

                      Ok, I gotta split and get some stuff done........
                      I look forward to catching up with this later tonight or tomorrow afternoon

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                      • #12
                        People who say to start clomid "during" are either talking about low dose for cholesterol benefits, if they are saying that to get your own test levels up then they are dumb. Clomid should be used as stated above about 3 weeks after eq 2 weeks after test (for recovery purposes).
                        "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
                        Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination
                        alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
                        Calvin Collidge (1872-1933)
                        30th U.S. President

                        johnsonpride81@cyber-rights.com

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                        • #13
                          ups sorry I did mean 10mgs EVERY DAY...typo
                          EVERYTHING I SAY IS ONLY AN OPINION.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by blkturbo
                            so, I'm usually winging it when it comes to nutrition, which is why I'm glad my body isn't picky about actual food quality I dont think I'd ever have time to go on a serious BB diet if I HAD to.
                            This is why your 6' 165. Your making excuses for yourself. Dotn make excuses, i dotn care what job you have, you can make a concerted effort to eat right or better. If not your wasting a good cycle
                            I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
                            I pray at least 6 times a day to build my soul

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by prolangtum
                              This is why your 6' 165. Your making excuses for yourself. Dotn make excuses, i dotn care what job you have, you can make a concerted effort to eat right or better. If not your wasting a good cycle
                              i agree w/pro just a wast of $$ and Gear to noe eat right or at all...thats proly your not keeping any gains that you have made.....just plan out a schedual and stick to it...pre cook and pack your shit. if ya want to throw away your$$ you can gladly send your gear to me
                              Stuck in the Desert.

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