Question on cycle

[juiceman]

So just brainstorming, now what exactly are steroids like deca tren winny etc etc are they just derivatives of the king testosterone? Well this is how i view it i might be totally wrong though maybe some help?

Anyways, instead of running mild shit like mast that does different effects when building muscle can i just do a high dose of test and be done with it? Like i figure you do a test deca cycle like following :
Test e 1gram a week
Deca 800mg a week
Total horomone 1800 mgs of awsomenesss

Couldnt one just run 1800mgs of test and build just as much muscle? What im getting at is there really a point in running different compounds unless say you wanna tighten lean up so you take tren and masterone before a competition or eq.

Like yah i get tren is way more anabolic then test so to me the only real cycle stack that makes sense is a tren test combo cause you need the test when you take tren.

As for other stacks what can they do thats better then test at the same dosage ?

You guys understand or am i just being retarded.

[Little BamBam]

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Lol I think I understand what you trying to cook up. From what I think which of course I may be wrong I'm sure fist will tune in. Is that the advantages of running a different compound is so that the androgen receptors don't get saturated with just test compound that is why taking test for so long even after upping the dosage it is still not as effective as the first few hundred mgs from the beginning of the cycle. So there for you can use other compounds to take advantage of the other receptors. Think of it as you have so many parking spots in a parking lot once every spot is taken no one else can park until some of the spaces [receptors] clear out. Hope that makes sense. But that would make sense if it was a super high intensity cycle for a very short period of time then yes the very high test would work awesome. Maybe some one else will tune in when they wake up

[chemicallyengineered]

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I hate to contradict anyone but a receptor is a receptor, it is attached to an androgen or it is open. So different compounds to not have different receptors. However there are direct and indirect effects to every compound outside of just activating the androgen receptor. You also have receptors that can be activated in the prostate and depending on the compound can be activated more or less. The higher the androgen there the prostate is effected. You also have receptors in your scalp and this is why some drugs are prone to increasing male pattern baldness. Steroids are test based, nandrolone based and dht based.

[chemicallyengineered]

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I highly recommend reading anabolics by William
Llewelyn because there is way too much info to put in a thread.

[chemicallyengineered]

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The only way to clear out receptors is to take time off of all compounds.

[chemicallyengineered]

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As far as running 1800mgs of test goes. It would depend on how much muscle you carry. If you were to only weigh 160lbs then there is no way your body could utilize that much rest for building muscle. A lot of the test would just ended up magnifying the negative effects with little to no real growth. You also have to consider that no matter how much juice you throw at your body that is only part of the equation. If you don't take in enough calories to support growth then you will stagnate. Every. Pound of muscle you add increases your basal metabolic rate and there calorie demands. Once you get to the point of adding 20 or so pounds in a cycle you tend to plateau because the caloric demands for continued growth become very difficult to meet. You need to take in an extra 500 calories everyday over your maintenance plus activity just to gain one pound.

[chemicallyengineered]

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That's not to say someone carrying 220
Or so pounds of lean weight can't utilize higher doses cycles. The more muscle you have the more receptors and real tissue you have to utilize higher doses. Plus the longer you are on the more your body increases cortisol to try and stop the muscular increase and therefore to combat the cortisol you either up the dose or come off and let cortisol go back to normal.

[juiceman]

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I get what your saying and I thank you guys, so if your running two compounds how would your body utilize the hormones any different then just one hormone (test) at the same dose as the test and say deca?

So basically back to the test and deca 1 gram of test and 800deca. That's total of 1800mgs how would your body utilize <-------- that better then just 1800mgs of test

[hicktown]

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Its a different compound derived from a test base but its going to yield different gains., Just like you would use anything else to cut up or bulk. Its going to have different attributes.

[rnixon]

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Juice just needs to eat more salmon and steak

[rnixon]

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And potatoes and rice

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

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Each compound does a different thing to ur muscle like hardness water retention strength and endurance 1 g test and 800 mg deca would be a outstanding cycle as long as ur intake of carbs protein and good fats is up to par and with every 5 lbs of mass u gain u have to increase your intake of cals test would be the base and give u mass and endurance deca will get you strong and add lean solid mass together they are a great team

[rnixon]

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Juice winter bulk test npp tren primo hgh ;-) and food logged

[juiceman]

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might just run 2 grams of test because no different then takeing a bunch of other crap......see how it goes Remember test is king of em all well tren is debateable

[Little BamBam]

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I hate to contradict anyone but a receptor is a receptor, it is attached to an androgen or it is open. So different compounds to not have different receptors. However there are direct and indirect effects to every compound outside of just activating the androgen receptor. You also have receptors that can be activated in the prostate and depending on the compound can be activated more or less. The higher the androgen there the prostate is effected. You also have receptors in your scalp and this is why some drugs are prone to increasing male pattern baldness. Steroids are test based, nandrolone based and dht based.

Thanks for the clear up