Ways to reduce pip?

[mfdvr]

Re: Ways to reduce pip?

I've found that certain muscles have "sweet" spots, in other words a place that has much less pip. For example, on my glutes, if i go too low or too much in the middle the pip is way worse. If i go as high to the hip as possible and lateral as possible the pip is less. It's trial and error but if your pinning eod you'll figure it out quickly. I think it has to do with how many nerve endings are at that site. When I start pushing the oil in I can tell right away if I'm near a nerve as I can feel the oil go in and pip is sure to follow. I'll actually pull out and move over a half inch. Once you've considered the obvious things like BA content and mg/ml concentration this could help.

[sofargone561]

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Not sure what pins I have at home I will have to look, I think they are bd.

The injection i did the day before yesterday has swollen and there is a lump. I used to get really worried about this but it happens 9/10 times when i inject. The day of inject isnt always so bad it starts to hurt later that night. the next day it starts to hurt and lump up. The day after it hurts less but the lump is a lot bigger. As the days go on the lump goes away and the pain is less and less until finally its all gone. It is really quite annoying and really detering to want to do a shot when you can feel the pain and lump of the last one. I use the heating pad on the injections sites constantly. it helps but only so much.

[sofargone561]

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I just dont understand how not many other people have this problem but i have this problem with every injection no matter the lab, hormone, dose or ml.

[guns01]

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sfg some of the other things that popped into my mind that may be causing you issues here:

1- needle is too long or too short: which can get you under or even over the muscle. both cause the oil to dissolve into your system slower causing pip swelling and lumps
2- you are missing the muscle by going in between it. think of the 3 delt heads, you can literally go in between each of the three which again causes the same issue as above.
3- you are moving the pin around as you are injecting which is causing added irritation to the site. if this is the issue stick to areas you have the most control of while self injecting like chest, bis and quads. anywhere else and you are contorting to hit the spots.
4- you possibly could be allergic to solvents or carrier oils that are the most commonly used by brewers. if this is the case then you do like the rest of us guys with pip. you suck it up put a heating pad on the bad ones and hate life for up to a week lol.
5- using way to big of a pin. if you can push the product through a 25-29g pin then use the smallest pin possible. if you are shooting with an 18-22g pin then you are going to have a ton of pip and scar tissue buildup in the areas you are pinning .

for real though, try the pec for example. take say 1ml or 1/2 ml of whatever you are using. flex the chest muscle to see where the upper pec splits. now stay away from the split or where the line is. shoot above or below it between 1in to 1/2in pin depth. if you get pip from 1/2 ml or 1ml of product then it is most likely the solvents or the oil being used and you are going to get it from any or all products. reason i say this is because is 1- you are only shooting a small amount 2- you know exactly where the muscle splits and 3- you damn sure should be able to control any movement during the procedure.

[sofargone561]

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I'm using a 1.5" 25g. Unfortunately I'm no where as big I was one and I'm not lean either for certain muscles would be hard to pin. I know some guys love lats and my lats would be impossible to pin right now.

I am sure I am missing the muscle sometimes but I find it hard to believe in stupid enough to miss the muscle on every shot.

My hands shake normally. When I'm on what I'm on now they shake even worse and when I have a needle in my hand its ever worse so I know the needle is tearing my muscles up.

It's very possibly I'm allergic to something. I am not allergic to anything that I know of. But even my home brew test which everyone loved hurt like a ***** and it was just test e and gso with ba and bb.

I really think its going to come down to manning the fuck up and dealing with it unfortunately. All my old gym buddies and people I always use to like being stronger or bigger then kept working out and all look great. I got depressed and stopped and not only do I have to make up for everything g I lost I have to make up for all the time I didn't put in.

I want to be stronger and bigger and more ripped then I ever have been and ever thought I would Be so if I have to suck it up and deal with it I'm going to. I just have to mentally keep myself in it and with everything I am dealing with right now it gets tuff sometimes.

I am 218 as of today and probably between 15-20% body fat. I was 210lbs the other day but I had some last minute shit pop up and I fell of my diet and training and screwed myself all up.
My goal is to get to 190-200lbs but leans as shit. Eventually I would like to consider maybe working towards a men's physique competition. Ben if I never compete, at least for right now that's what I'm looking for. My career as of right now will only permit me to be so big so anything bigger then men's physique would be to big and cause problems. It sucks but I am trying to work on. The pip is just another obstacle I have to get over.

[guns01]

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try the pec like i said man. if you still get pip then it is the oil. i have been in the game for a long time and i still get the same issues when i dick up on something or i miss. that even goes for pharm grade prescribed stuff. so it isnt just you. try it and then see what happens. i would go with a 5/8in or 1/2in in the pec though. if you dont have one then measure the needle sheild and cut it off where it makes the pin go that depth in.

[sofargone561]

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I have a some 29g 1/5'' pins i believe and some slin pins that i think are 5/8th inch. I will check tonight. Thank got thats All i have to do becuase anything further then that I dont think I would have the balls to do. My pecs are seriously lacking right now to.

[sofargone561]

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I deffintely Hasn't gotten any better but I hope it eventually does. If I did 5cc of prop anywhere I would be I a wheel chair for 2 weeks.
Prop gives me more pip than anything else but I get pip from everything I have ever tried no matter what lab or mg/ml.

If it is allergies i don't see it being the carrier oil it would have to be the ba/bb

[sofargone561]

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The pain hurts more with short esters then with long esters but long esters the pain stays much longer. If all goes well with the short esters it will hurt the day of the shot, the day after is the worst and by the day after tht it starts getting better. By day 3 its gone or not enough to bother me but man does it hurt.

I was thinking to myself last night... both of my ass cheeks where lumped up and swollen and when i walked i could feel the water or whatever was causing the lumps swishing around and was like this is how girls with fat asses feel when they walk ahahaha.

Im sucking it up. I am working on getting some sterile oil hopefully soon. That, the heating pad and heating it up before injections should help.
I am also going to get a foam roller this week and hopefully if it doesnt help the pip will at least help break up scar tissue.
Advil seems to really help take away the pain and inflammation.

[sofargone561]

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I use gluten and quads. Shoulders for some reason are really hit and miss.

Once u get leaner I will find more spots. Right now quads only seem to work in one spot. On the side of my quad kind of in the middle between my hip and knee. Pinning sucks lol if its not the pip that hurts the scar tissue makes it either hurt or impossible to pin or I screw up and get get bloody. As a matter of fact if I do get a pin that somehow goes in good and doesn't have pip I'm more worried then when it does lol

[sofargone561]

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Just pinned last night in my glute. Felt a little weird when I was pinning but I kept going. Small amount of pip up until a few hours ago. Just got home from work and when to the batroom. In the mirror I noticed a red spot. I started looking at it and there is a red spot at the injection site about the size of a half dollar and what appears to be some Bruising. It's swollen and painful to the touch, really painful to the touch. Can't tell if its hot because I'm on tren my whole
Body is hot. It's somewhat throbbing though. My whole ass cheek hurts not just the one spot and there is a lump.

I have has redness and the whole none but this red spot is brand new thing to me and its a kitty worrying. I have a physical on the 25th and I have to have a clean bill of health and also pass a drug test. Is it possible this shot is infected? In only like 24 hours?

[guns01]

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read the if you think you have an abcess thread i posted up. it takes weeks for an infection to develop man. do what hybrid said and you will be gtg.

[sofargone561]

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I didn't tnink it would infect that fast.
Is ice a good idea the day after and injection?
I put the hearing pad on it last night. I took ibuprofin last ignt I'm bout to take some more.

Should I Alternate between ice and heating pad?

[guns01]

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I didn't tnink it would infect that fast.
Is ice a good idea the day after and injection?
I put the hearing pad on it last night. I took ibuprofin last ignt I'm bout to take some more.

Should I Alternate between ice and heating pad?

yes alternate back and forth between ice and heat. this will keep the swelling down and get it moved out faster. you have to be doing something wrong when pinning my man

[sofargone561]

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I didn't tnink it would infect that fast.
Is ice a good idea the day after and injection?
I put the hearing pad on it last night. I took ibuprofin last ignt I'm bout to take some more.

Should I Alternate between ice and heating pad?

Ok

And that's what I'm thinking. I didn't have this issue my first 2 cycle I had pip but nothing like the issues I have been having.
I pinned my left glute last week and again I had pip but its all hon after 2 days. I thought I hit the same exact spot on my right glute but this shit happened. I have no idea what I'm doing that's so messed up but somewhere alon the long I am fucking up.