Cramps?!?

[DerCribben]

HI all, I know you've been seeing a lot of me lately but here goes.

I've been getting cramps ever since I started this cycle, I'm doing 600mg Deca weekly, 50 mg Winny daily, and .2 - .28 mg of Clen a day. Is this usual? I've been drinking water like crazy, sleeping well and stretching well before and after every workout. What gives?

[scorpion]

the only thing I can think of is maybe its the clen

[Josh]

u need to take some supplemental taurine - drink more water - and eat bananas

[Drenten]

Winstrol and Clenbuterol are both known to cause cramps. The combination of the two is probably what your problem is.

[Drenten]

Originally posted by Josh
drink more water - and eat bananas

That sounds like a recipe for explosive diarrhea.

[Josh]

lol well he needs to stay hydrated and needs the potasium

[Plucks]

Yeah when i took clen i had horrible cramps. For once in my life i felt bad for my girl when she got hers cause i knew how she felt. Drink a shit load of water and it will help a little. But hey i lost 7% bf on clen so i could deal with the cramps to look better.

[superchicken]

thats a lot of clen also.

[Josh]

yeah bro i didnt see that try around .2mgs

[SHINE]

6 grams of Taurine per day as clen severely depleates it, and some pottasium would be nice as well.
This should greately reduce the cramping problems.

by the way the board looks great !


Best Regards, Shine.

[BStrongBwell]

Sounds like your electrolyte levels are low from taking in proportionately too much H2O vs potassium. If your water is good, just up the potassium bro. Either cook using a potassium chloride salt (KCl) instead of a sodium chloride salt (NaCl), or eat more natural sources. I like NoSalt brand potassium salt personally. Potatoes and bananas are the two highest natural sources of potassium. I saw somewhere that an optimum daily intake was between 1875-5625 mg from all sources. I don't count it personally. I just know to take in more if a)I get bloating from sodium or b)cramping from drinking too much water.

[DerCribben]

Sounds like Red Bull and Bananas are in order. I definitely need more Potassium in my diet right now I'm eating chicken and eggs (also a pretty funny game on Iwon.com) for protein and oatmeal and pasta for carbs and my Vitamin / Mineral packets only provide 99mg's of Potassium (Damn!!)

Thanks again for the help guys!! This forum is great!

[SHINE]

Your on the right trac with the Redbull, Although I think it'll take more Taurine than that.
Some of your cramping could be from the incresed creatine that AAS bring.
But I bet Clen's the main cause because Clen causing an overload of free radicals your liver looses its taurine having it's osmotic pressure changed across the surfface of the cell just like glycogen depletion , T4 to T3 will also be greatly reduced. And adding Taurine is beneficial as also MG and CA for this very reason.
Taurine is being depleted from every cell while on clen so you cramp!
As I under stand with pottasium your only treating the symptom and not the cause. Depleation of taurine out of the cell and its water will take others with it.
(Credit to animal for bringing up some great research)

Like I said find a good taruine sup and start with 6grams/day added with MG , CA and pottasium and this should greatly help theese cramps if not get rid of them completely.

[prolangtum]

I hate clen for that exact reason. Winny seems to not only dry my joints out, mut dehyrdate me as well. If problem persists, i would switch clen to an ECA, or NYC, i notice better results off them anyway.

[zozer7]

Clen had me crampping and screaming. I could only workout for 20 min. at a time.