SQ VS IM

[dirtwarrior]

I know this has been talked about before but this is different. I am going to compare the SQ and IM with lab test. Some are wondering why. I am glad you asked By nature I am cheap so when I got some test that has devastating PIP instead of throwing it into the trash I will compare it with the results of running it IM. I have the results of the first vial IM hardly any PIP and this vial which slays me. I am going to run it .33 ml x 3 times a week for a total of 1 ml a week and compare total test and E2. I will use the same E2 control the same so it will be a fair comparison. I will run it about 8 weeks to make sure the IM is out of my system and the results are only SQ.
I am going to start Feb 17 and test will be soon after Mar 17

[dirtwarrior]

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Correction labs will be after Apr 17

[qhams]

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I posted up some lab work with this. I am on TRT and ran subq for 3-4 weeks prior to labs and they were exactly the same as IM. I usually stay in mid 700s to low 800s depending on when shot and labs were drawn. I do 50mg on Mon and 50mg on Thursday. I also think I had less aromtization. Unfortunately my doc is a dummie who doesn't check for e2....says there is no point in checking it...its gonna be high anyway...what a moron.

[Little BamBam]

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I'm tuned in for this research

[Gunner16]

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From what I've read sud q kept the blood levels a bit better and also since there wasn't as big of swing the e2 levels were better also. This was a bit back. I will try to find where I read this so I can back up what I'm saying. Very interesting though I'm interested in seeing how it turns out because I've been considering running Subq for mt TRT does.

[dirtwarrior]

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1st pin this morning. The oil was thick and took a while filling the pin to .33 ml. It took less time with injection, no pain.
This will not be a regular log. I just will report things that seem odd from IM pins or odd reaction.
Question will be answered. So far so good.

[jamescb77]

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If you shoot a smaller amount every day the results are even better. Helps keep e2 down and levels nice and stable.

[dirtwarrior]

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The day after the 1st pin no problems. I know it is being absorbed because of the very oily skin

[dirtwarrior]

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Absorption is good SQ but it does cause the ab muscle to hypertrophy some, may not be a bad thing

[dirtwarrior]

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update
1 week on SQ. The T500 which was giving me PIP IM was doing the same SQ. I used a different vial of T500 and no problem.
So if it is giving you PIP IM expect the same SQ

[dirtwarrior]

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**Going to end this test. Not working out well for me**

[guns01]

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i say find a compound that cuts it and add it in the barrel man. i am like you i will suck up pip and never throw anything away. their is always a way to cut stuff in some form or another. hell going deeper or more shallow with the inj or lowering the amount injected can cut pip for some. just tossing some ideas out there

[kanada]

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take said vial and vent it (insert a pin into it)
make sure this pin is not in contact with the vial
place vial in the oven
turn oven on to 240F
let vial warm up with oven
when oven reached temperature...usually it beeps....begin counting off 40 minutes of time.
when 40 minutes is over remove vial from oven...careful it will be very hot.
after about 10 min of cooling remove vent pin as if you let it completely cool in there it might damage the rubber (rubber will go hard)

8 times out of 10 this will help.

how do i know: about 10 years experience as a home brewer. have brewed many high mg compounds etc.

what do you have to lose???

[dirtwarrior]

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The pins while pain free now, it takes about 2 weeks to absorb the oil. Starting to look like the Michelin Man

[dirtwarrior]

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Going to give a recap
Test levels plummeted (no labs to back it up but I can tell)
Absorbing from SQ rather slow
Knots in ab area that last over a week after a pin