just EQ

[bronco21]

results will vary, but since you have not used in anabolics, you might be suprised at the results. For my second cycle I ran deca only at 300mgs a week for nine weeks and put on 13 pounds and kept 9...not bad. I would never do it again though because I am way beyond 300mgs a week now. Good Luck

[VveTTe917]

EQ only is a waste IMO, add some enanthate in there.

[josh_323i]

"we recommend that steroid novices stay away from all testosterone compounds. To make it very clear: Those who have never taken steroids do not yet need any testosterone and should wait until later when the "weaker" steroids begin to have little effect."

this is a quote from www.anabolicreview.com

is this totally off base?

any comments?

[FLEMS]

Originally posted by LadiesMan
i've already done 400mg eq for 10 weeks, like I said you will get a good 5lbs. It is a waste of time.

you gotta understand some people arent looking for any more then that...like you said its a "good" 5 pounds

[rude]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FLEMS
you gotta understand some people arent looking for any more then that...like you said its a "good" 5 pounds [/QUOTE
good point, im going to run the same cycle, are the gains easy to keep of equipoise?

[josh_323i]

I read completely the opposite information from site to site on EQ...which is right?

Does it aromatize slightly or not....would i need clomid for after cycle...or would simple fuzu supp. work, or nothing at all needed?

[superchicken]

if thats all you can get, i think 600mg wk would give you decent gains. 5-10lbs most likey. but ive heard of 15+ in people w/ good genetics. but if you can get test do it

[rude]

I have read that it only aromitizes at high doses but im not sure if thats true, check your pm josh 323i.

[ryan16]

Ladiesman im starting a similar cycle in about a month hows it going so far?

[Keiser]

Originally posted by ryan16
Ladiesman im starting a similar cycle in about a month hows it going so far?

it is going really good, i love the test, but also enth and EQ are long lasting so, they haven't really kicked in all the way, i'm only on my 3rd week!!!

[Juicemonkey101]

Originally posted by superchicken
if thats all you can get, i think 600mg wk would give you decent gains. 5-10lbs most likey. but ive heard of 15+ in people w/ good genetics. but if you can get test do it

Agreed. With you never having touched a Steroid, i would say 600mg for 10-12 weeks could give you 10 pounds and some vascularity. BUT, if you added Test.... ohhhh how much better shit would be!

[rado]

Originally posted by superchicken
if thats all you can get, i think 600mg wk would give you decent gains. 5-10lbs most likey. but ive heard of 15+ in people w/ good genetics. but if you can get test do it

I'll 2nd this too...Eq and test are the way to go..

[PIT]

Originally posted by LadiesMan
you will get 5lbs thats it

I would not say that though it's possible that thats all he will gain, Ive seen people gain anywhere from 5-30 lbs. on Eq alone, Most commonly 8-12lbs. and most people got shut down without test.


To answer your question about keeping gains from EQ, To keep any gains weather it be from test, eq or Just all natural isn't easy, the farther you get away from your natural genetic size The harder it is to maintain, But by eating and training hard all the time you can keep alot. The reason why many poeple lose gains from test is because You can hold alot of water while on and when your off you loose water weight, and water size, As long as you run an anti-E at a small dosage to keep water retention low and run clomid afterwards, you should be able to keep 95% of what you gain on test, That is if your diet is what it should be.

Eq gains come with minimal water retention so there is no water loss post cycle, Therefore making it seem like a good quaility gain and great percentage of keepable gains.

I haven't been on this board that much in the past few weeks, There alot of new faces around, I feel like I have to Introduce myself in my first post again. It's great to see this board keep growing >Later,

>PIT

[rude]

good info pit

[josh_323i]

Originally posted by PIT
Most commonly 8-12lbs. and most people got shut down without test.>PIT

what do you mean by got shut down?

Anyways...so with a straight EQ cycle would i need to use clomid after?