just EQ

[FLEMS]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rude

Originally posted by FLEMS
you gotta understand some people arent looking for any more then that...like you said its a "good" 5 pounds [/QUOTE
good point, im going to run the same cycle, are the gains easy to keep of equipoise?

im running eq for 12 weeks @ 400mg per week and add winstrol to the mix at the halfway point....hard as a rock! (i know im gonna hear throw test in there.lol)

[HeHateMe]

shut down = lowered androgen levels from using highly anabolic/low androgen steroids without a highly androgenic one...which can lead to lowered sex drive/impotence, etc

and yes you'll need clomid...17-21 days after your last shot

i think it's a bit misleading to say that one will 'only gain five lbs' from an EQ only cycle. Different people react differently to different compounds. It's hard to put a quantative number to it.

[FLEMS]

Originally posted by PIT
I would not say that though it's possible that thats all he will gain, Ive seen people gain anywhere from 5-30 lbs. on Eq alone, Most commonly 8-12lbs. and most people got shut down without test.


To answer your question about keeping gains from EQ, To keep any gains weather it be from test, eq or Just all natural isn't easy, the farther you get away from your natural genetic size The harder it is to maintain, But by eating and training hard all the time you can keep alot. The reason why many poeple lose gains from test is because You can hold alot of water while on and when your off you loose water weight, and water size, As long as you run an anti-E at a small dosage to keep water retention low and run clomid afterwards, you should be able to keep 95% of what you gain on test, That is if your diet is what it should be.

Eq gains come with minimal water retention so there is no water loss post cycle, Therefore making it seem like a good quaility gain and great percentage of keepable gains.

I haven't been on this board that much in the past few weeks, There alot of new faces around, I feel like I have to Introduce myself in my first post again. It's great to see this board keep growing >Later,

>PIT

great post..good info bud

[PIT]

Originally posted by HeHateMe
shut down = lowered androgen levels from using highly anabolic/low androgen steroids without a highly androgenic one...which can lead to lowered sex drive/impotence, etc

and yes you'll need clomid...17-21 days after your last shot

i think it's a bit misleading to say that one will 'only gain five lbs' from an EQ only cycle. Different people react differently to different compounds. It's hard to put a quantative number to it.

I'll second that HHM, Good point.

[josh_323i]

What if i take Fuzu, a supplement for raising your natural test? Or just not strong enough, I don't want to be impotent!!!!! lol

[josh_323i]

Originally posted by HeHateMe
which can lead to lowered sex drive/impotence, etc

YIKES!

I definitely want to avoid that!! Is that a for sure thing or just might happen?

[BiggerStronger]

Thats why people are telling you to add some test to that cycle. You will be so much happier that you did. In the end if you only gain 5 pounds when you could have gained 15-20lbs in the same time frame with the same amount of shots and low side effects if any...why would you? In my opinion you might have more side effects from taking eq only rather than test enanth and eq. I.E. Low sex drive = "useless dick syndrome" lol. If you do clomid therapy, good diet, and good training afterwards you'll be able to keep most of your gains and you'll love the "new you".

Its your choice, but my suggestion is test is the base of 95% of cycles.

[Shear_Madness]

I totally agree that test should be a base in every cycle, and I have had great experiences with test and Eq stacked together. BUT, like it was stated earlier everyone reacts differently to different compounds. My lifting partner makes awesome gains off of deca alone, yet it really dont do that much for me at the same amount. If you want to try EQ by itself, there is no way for us to tell you how much weight you will gain, what kind of strength increases you will get, or even if it will make you grow a 3rd leg. Give it a whirl and find out for yourself, if its the only thing you can get then its the only thing you can get. Run it for 10 weeks and get back to us letting us know how you made out.


In 10 weeks I promise you will agree that you should have added some test

[josh_323i]

what do you guys think the minimum test i need to add to avoid a useless dick?

[Shear_Madness]

250mg per week would be good, 500mg would still be a safe, light, and better dose.

[rado]

Originally posted by Shear_Madness
In 10 weeks I promise you will agree that you should have added some test

I'll 2nd this too

[rude]

So, a little test with equipoise will prevent impotence, right?

[rude]

isn't equipoise one of the safer steroids?

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by rude
isn't equipoise one of the safer steroids?

Yes, but so is Deca, and 10 weeks of Deca only will shut you down like you just saw your mom naked.

[rude]

oh, eeeewww LOL