My next cycle input?

[exphys88]

Re: My next cycle input?

sorry bro, I just got your message, next time pm me and i'll get it immediately. You got solid advice here, I wouldn't recommend anything different than what they did, these guys are very knowledgeable.

I would like to point out that with long esters, they have a built in taper because of the slow release, so it's not necessary to taper. Additionally, front loading with prop is the way to go, I like to run it alongside the test e for the first 4 weeks to get immediate gains.

The most important thing with your diet is to make adjustments as needed. If you're not losing fat, you need to cut calories.

good luck with your cycle.

[rnixon]

Thanks Bro it's all good

[overburdened]

Re: My next cycle input?

I wouldn't bother with a taper.. either up or down. I would skip the 1st week preload on the test and just run a straight 500mg's EW. I would run the tbol at 50mg ed for 4-5 weeks rather than taper the dose up and running for 8wks. You might have to play with your adex dose a bit.. but you are at a good place to start.

Clomid for pct I woud dose it for 4 weeks like this 100/75/50/50.. and would switch from adex to a suicidal AI like Exemstane or Black Lion Research's Formoron . It'll make sure you avoid any estro rebound.

took the words out of my mouth! this^^^ Pitt is one hell of a smart guy!!! def follow that advice on the AI... both a-sin and formeron are excellent AI, with both also being a serm to some degree also.... as well, they are both FAR easier on your lipids than adex... and, using those instead of adex will help any gyno issues that may arise(adex lowers e2, but is not that good at reducing puffiness/tenderness in your nips, if you are prone to the nip issue...)

I like to frontload, but my cycles are fairly complex and I stack several aas together,.. is not necessary, like pitt said, with just running test e..
the taper down is far from necessary, as half life of the test naturally tapers off for you...
tbol is fairly mild.. the 50mg ed dosing suggested is going to give you much better results, and will help get things going quickly for you

clomid is a very good pct for mild cycles such as this one!

you did your homework well on your compounds bro! we all like to see that!

good luck, hope you reach your goals set forth for this cycle!

[overburdened]

Re: My next cycle input?

I am doing most of this for my diet but have been eating some nuts even though I questioned the fat content. No pork hey, we have organic pork that is pretty lean for the roasts and chops so I thought it wouldn't be a problem avoiding any bacon of course. BBQ Tuna and A salad for dinner tonight mmmmm.

the fat content in most nuts is primarily efa's.. LOW_FAT is possibly one of the worst things one could do to their body..... like protein, fat is something that should be limited only in a very intelligent manner... (if you cut fat to the point you are not getting enough essential fatty acids, you are not only severely hampering your gains, you are playing with your health!!!)
Low fat diets were once thought to be the 'ideal' way to control intake of overall calories(mainly due to the fact that fat has over twice as many cal/gram as carbs or protein, but also because it was once believed by many 'experts' to cause storage of fats and that the body did not 'burn' fat with any ease whatsoever) these myths have not only been debunked over the years, but proven COMPLETELY WRONG!!!

essential fatty acids have been found to be essential to insulin function

cell membranes within the body(this includes muscle cells) are comprised primarily of types of fats and fatty acids... when you break down muscle tissues, it is absolutely necessary to have enough essential fatty acids to 'repair/recover', just as it is necessary to have protein(and enough of it)

essential fatty acids are essential to proper nerve function (this includes the brain)

essential fatty acids are crucial to proper metabolism, and for transport of fat from fat cells to be used as energy(fat loss)

I could go on and on....

if you are restricting your intake of fats, it would be highly advised to supplement with A LOT of EFA's(Omega 3,6,9)... as well as making sure they are evenly distributed throughout the day, and eaten with each and every meal...

you wouldn't skimp on your protein intake, especially while dieting... don't do it with fat(EFA's)... just like when dieting, your body requires more protein, it also requires more EFA's

[exphys88]

The only time I've seen a benefit to restricting fats is in cardiac patients. Dr Ornish and esselstein have been the only docs to actually reverse atherosclerosis. They put patients on a 10% fat diet which is primarily vegan. Nobody else has done for cardiac patients what they have.
I agree w everything you put down, just clarifying that there is a place for low fat diets.

[rnixon]

the fat content in most nuts is primarily efa's.. LOW_FAT is possibly one of the worst things one could do to their body..... like protein, fat is something that should be limited only in a very intelligent manner... (if you cut fat to the point you are not getting enough essential fatty acids, you are not only severely hampering your gains, you are playing with your health!!!)
Low fat diets were once thought to be the 'ideal' way to control intake of overall calories(mainly due to the fact that fat has over twice as many cal/gram as carbs or protein, but also because it was once believed by many 'experts' to cause storage of fats and that the body did not 'burn' fat with any ease whatsoever) these myths have not only been debunked over the years, but proven COMPLETELY WRONG!!!

essential fatty acids have been found to be essential to insulin function

cell membranes within the body(this includes muscle cells) are comprised primarily of types of fats and fatty acids... when you break down muscle tissues, it is absolutely necessary to have enough essential fatty acids to 'repair/recover', just as it is necessary to have protein(and enough of it)

essential fatty acids are essential to proper nerve function (this includes the brain)

essential fatty acids are crucial to proper metabolism, and for transport of fat from fat cells to be used as energy(fat loss)

I could go on and on....

if you are restricting your intake of fats, it would be highly advised to supplement with A LOT of EFA's(Omega 3,6,9)... as well as making sure they are evenly distributed throughout the day, and eaten with each and every meal...

you wouldn't skimp on your protein intake, especially while dieting... don't do it with fat(EFA's)... just like when dieting, your body requires more protein, it also requires more EFA's

Good info thanks guys. I've been keeping my fat around 60 grams per day and I actually do take an omega supplement twice A day. I used krill oils for some time due to acl reconstruction, it seems to help my knees a lot. One thing I've been skimping on is my protein intake it has been as low as 150 g and shooting for 200 but
It just doesn't seem to work out to keep
Calories, proteins, carbs, and fats all in the exact range without going to high on another but I'll keep working on it!
Cheers
rnixon

[rnixon]

Bump

[rnixon]

So I am on 500 mg test e/week as stated previously almost done my 50 mg/Ed of t-Bol and taking just shy of 5 IU GH on my two weeks off of work and lowering it to 2.5 iu ed while 2 weeks at work just due to dosing frequency and only being able to dose twice a day while working. I went with aromasin instead of arimidex and taking eod .5 ml I believe 25 mg.
I have a question. My sex drive seems lower than normal and am not sure why as it has always been the total opposite while on any cycle?????
Any information appreciated.
Thanks
rnixon

[Pittsburgh63]

So I am on 500 mg test e/week as stated previously almost done my 50 mg/Ed of t-Bol and taking just shy of 5 IU GH on my two weeks off of work and lowering it to 2.5 iu ed while 2 weeks at work just due to dosing frequency and only being able to dose twice a day while working. I went with aromasin instead of arimidex and taking eod .5 ml I believe 25 mg.
I have a question. My sex drive seems lower than normal and am not sure why as it has always been the total opposite while on any cycle?????
Any information appreciated.
Thanks
rnixon

E2 levels could be too low or high. Either of the two can adversely affect libido.

[Anabolic5150]

Re: My next cycle input?

Pitt is absolutely correct, my libido is more affected when too low as well as increased joint pain. Blood work is the only way to know where you stand.

[rnixon]

Sounds good I was going to get blood work done these days home but never did super busy, obviously a mistake but I will get on it next time I am home and go from there. I am in canada, Ill get a complete bloodwork and make sure the suggested checks as ilsted in in AAS stickies will all be checked
Thanks
rnixon

[rnixon]

Also my good knee was killing me the other day and all I did was go go karting with the kid and a chiropractor appointment but I could barely walk and joints have been sore the last while.

[Pittsburgh63]

Also my good knee was killing me the other day and all I did was go go karting with the kid and a chiropractor appointment but I could barely walk and joints have been sore the last while.

Yeah..that's always a sign that my e2 is bottomed out. You could back your masin dose back to 12.5mg eod and ut should help.

[rnixon]

Yeah..that's always a sign that my e2 is bottomed out. You could back your masin dose back to 12.5mg eod and ut should help.

I will try lowering the masin but I started it a little while into my cycle and am pretty sure things were a little off before I was on it so we will see and blood work for sure. Could just be stress who knows LMFAO
Cheers
R

[rnixon]

Re: My next cycle input?

Ok I am a little slow I was just putting together my pills for the week and realized I have been taking 10 mg of nolvadex which I think may be the cause ? I started it with cycle while waiting for masin read about the practice of using them together and that the nolvadex will keep cholesterol low so I stuck with it!
Should I cut it out?????
:-)