Fina and Hairloss ...

[CJWolf]

Why does fina cause more hairloss than other AS ... is it due to the high aromitization to DHT?

I'm wondering which of the

Nizoral
Minoxidil
Azelaic Acid
Spironolactone
Polysorbate 80

i should get to minimize the hairloss as best as i can ...

i've noticed thinning in the past, and i start fina quite soon ...

I don't mind getting them all if i have to, but i'd like to minimize the amount of items i use ...

[Governor]

wow, i was just thinking about that after reading another post.

bump for cj

[CJWolf]

i haven't really noticed any hair loss this cycle wiht the 100 mg/day of anavar, but i am predisposed to it genetically ...

i noticed it last time i ran fina, and i'm sure it'll start again ... if you look back a couple years my hair used to be a lot thicker than it is now, and my hair line is receding a little ... it's not that noticeable, but in 1-2 years it'll be rough ...

i need to make a pre emptive strike ...

[prolangtum]

Add a little winny, Test, and Halo, and "thinning" will never be a concern again.

[swolegreaser]

why do u say that prolangtum?

[CJWolf]

i think i'll just start injecting methyl-DHT, what do you think ..

[Hollywood Hogan]

Hair loss

I don't believe steroids actually cause hair loss. I believe steroids rapidly increase hair loss to those who are genetically pre-disposed to hair loss.

Steroids do not cause medical problems. What they do is speedup some genetically pre-disposed medical conditions and speedup rapidly some already existing medical conditions known or unknown.

Anyway if anyone is worried about loosing their hair, just shave your head and you will look fine. The shorter your hair the bigger you look!

[CJWolf]

thanks, even though that post didn't really say anything worthwhile at all ...

i realize that AS only accelerates a previously existing problem that i have ... MPB ...

but i'd rather keep my hair and be able to do AS ...

and if i wanted to just shave my head and not deal with it, i probably would have already done that, but i'd rather look like a pretty white collar guy and have a head of hair ...

[WarbirdWS6]

i use nizoral 2% ED, spiro 5% every night, minox/azelaic acid 5% combo every night. and proscar and saw palmetto. i'll be damned if my hair falls out! i'm 31 and got the majority of it, and intend to keep it that way. i'll use these hair products even if i am not on gear. why not do everything possible to keep your hair? either that or shave it like noted. you really need spiro for the front and top, and the minoxidil/azelaic is good for the vertex area (as well as the front/top as far as the AA goes), and the nizoral....why not? you gotta shampoo anyway....why not buy something to help with hair loss? JMO.

[WarbirdWS6]

Originally posted by CJWolf
thanks, even though that post didn't really say anything worthwhile at all ...

i realize that AS only accelerates a previously existing problem that i have ... MPB ...

but i'd rather keep my hair and be able to do AS ...

and if i wanted to just shave my head and not deal with it, i probably would have already done that, but i'd rather look like a pretty white collar guy and have a head of hair ...

i have all one length long hair (basically full head, always had a higher forehead though).....so if i lose any i'd get crucified by my friends.

[CJWolf]

my main problem is that my hair line is receding, but i've noticed it's thinner as well ...

i know i'll get the nizoral shampoo for sure ...

how do you go about applying all those that you take, i'll probably get the nizoral, spior and minox/azelic acid and use those religiously ... and i've got saw palmetto as well ...

but could you run down how you apply them?

[WarbirdWS6]

Originally posted by CJWolf
my main problem is that my hair line is receding, but i've noticed it's thinner as well ...

i know i'll get the nizoral shampoo for sure ...

how do you go about applying all those that you take, i'll probably get the nizoral, spior and minox/azelic acid and use those religiously ... and i've got saw palmetto as well ...

but could you run down how you apply them?

with a full head of hair and a somewhat receeded hairline (kinda like me) its a *****. you got to wet your hair a little, then dab the spiro cream through your part, and your front hairline.....then rub that shit in till the white appearance dissapears. i then put the minox/AA (dropper full) on my bald spot area and rub it in to prevent balding back there about half hour later. i have been using spiro rubbing it back there too before the minox. its protocol to use spiro first...wait like a half hour (some say a few hours) then do the minox/AA. the nizoral i just rub in for one minute, then wait 4 more minutes and let it sit. then wash it out. ED. i do the spiro and minox/AA at night by the way so it can marinate up there so to speak. hope that helps

[CJWolf]

does it leave your hair feeling flaky or oily?

and you just shower using the nizoral shampoo in the morning or before you use the cremes at night?

could i get by using a moisturizing shampoo in the morning and then using the nizoral shampoo at night and then applying the other 3 substances?

[WarbirdWS6]

Originally posted by CJWolf
does it leave your hair feeling flaky or oily?

and you just shower using the nizoral shampoo in the morning or before you use the cremes at night?

could i get by using a moisturizing shampoo in the morning and then using the nizoral shampoo at night and then applying the other 3 substances?

no, actually nizoral is an anti-dandruff shampoo. so it helps the scalp, i haven't noticed any effects on my hair though. seems fine, may dry it out a bit???? not sure, my hair is frizzy and dry anyway no matter what i do. i shampoo with it in the morning since i shower after my w/o and do so once a day (no g/f to be clean for at night, lol)....but if you wanted to you could shower and shampoo with nizoral at night.....then go at it with the creams etc before bedtime. just seems logical to me to shampoo in the morning at my usual time.....and to use the creams and such at night so they can sit on my scalp and go to work all night.

[CJWolf]

yeah, i shower 2x a day ...

but that's good to hear, i can get scripts for it all, but i think it'll be a lot more expensive at the rx, so i'll just get it my own ways

thanks for the info, that's what i've been needing to hear to make my order ...