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  • #16
    If you were doing a Fina and testosterone propionate cycle, you'd only have to wait approx 3 days before taking clomid!
    RIP BigJim33 & GearedUp: You are sorely missed my friends.

    Hindsight is always 20/20. But looking back it's still a bit fuzzy.

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    • #17
      got gear and greaser u left nothign for anyone else to add lol
      The Don Juan of Fitness Geared

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      Csecratary fo Staet for Natoinla Decauation

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      • #18
        Right got gear, u wait 3 days because those steroids that u mentioned are short lives therefore it will be okay to start clomid 3 days after. But with any long esters u need to wait approx. 3 wks to start ur clomid or it won't work and u'll just waste money.

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        • #19
          I heard that vit. B5 is good for ance is this true and is there anything else i could use for ance. swolegreaser u said to take milk thistle,but is that only if i do orals

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          • #20
            tanning and showering, the killer combo for cycle acne....

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            • #21
              tanning and showering, the killer combo for cycle acne....holy shit ur funny bro!! i guess if u do that u should be okay lol...
              Milk thisltle yeah would be great if u do orals, but ur liver needs all the protection it should deserve.

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              • #22
                So u recommend taking milk thislte for the deca/sust,anyway,when and how much do I take

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                • #23
                  I always run milk thisltle @ 1000mg ED and r-ALA at 1500mg ED.
                  Whenever I use steriods thats what i use, my liver is my foundation and i wanna protect it from any more damage, feel me.

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                  • #24
                    Well, I guess the Milk Thistle can't hurt anything anyway.

                    Acne..

                    Well, there's no magic fix. Basically, everything that works for regular acne will also work for steroid induced acne.

                    Tanning, medicated soaps, Vit B5, Antibiotics. There's so many different home remidies for acne, some seem to work great for some people and do nothing for others. The only thing I know that works for sure is Accutane. But that stuff is hell on your body, definately run the milk thistle and NO ORAL steroids if you take accutane.
                    RIP BigJim33 & GearedUp: You are sorely missed my friends.

                    Hindsight is always 20/20. But looking back it's still a bit fuzzy.

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                    • #25
                      True with the ACCUTANE. shit dryed my insides out lol...

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                      • #26
                        what is ala that swolegreaser talked about with the milk thistle?

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                        • #27
                          Alpha lopiac (sp) ACID. It's one of the best antioxident out there. Great for liver protection and also with high doses works well to keep BW in check

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                          • #28
                            Where do I get AlA,and when and how much should i take. Want do u mean BW in check?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by swolegreaser
                              "BUT if u are prone to getting fatty nips than I would get some for ur piece of mind."

                              That's what I said Got Gear lol....Damm u
                              still bad advice. its his first cycle how does he know if hes prone or not? just cause you dont have a natural tendancy to get fatty nips doesnt mean your not sensitive to gyno.

                              for example. lets say hes the type of person whos body converts test to estro at a very high rate. but if he has low nat test, he wont have a tendacy to get faaty nips before the cycle becuase his test was low and although he converts a high % to estro, there just wasnt enough test to convert a large amount into estro.

                              but as soon as he adds even 250mg wk of test that could be easily 10 times what his natural level was, and if hes the type who converts a lot to estro, its gyno time.......
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                              • #30
                                BW = body weight.......ALA - u can use 250-500mg with every meal before u eat take that dose and than eat right after or u'll get heartburn city. U can get it at any nutrional store or any on nutritional site.

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