post recovery

[pappapump]

You bros gave me alot of help on my cycle,u guys really know your shit,I hope to be as knowledgeable as u all some day.
Here are my stats 6' 220lb 30 years old been trainging off on on for 12 years,never done a cycle before, I'm looling to put on some moterate hard muscle. I've decided to do 300mg of deca and 250mg of test probably sustanon. My ? is when exactly do I start taking Clomid and how much,also should I just have Nolva on hand incase of gyno symptoms or should I take it no matter what. Any other post recovery precautions that should be done?
THANX BROS

[rookie]

wouldn't take any (nolva) unless i needed it...
keep them on hand ready to use when u notice the slightest signs of gyno... puffy or sore nipples are usually the 1st signs.. in that case take 40mg the 1st few days and then take 20mg/day till the end of ur cycle
follow up with clomid... dosage for clomid:
Day 1 - 300mgs [6 tabs]
Day 2 - 200mgs [4 tabs]
Days 3-14 - 100mg x 12 days [24 tabs]
Days 15-21 - 50mgs x 7 days [7 tabs]


just in case the name fools you this was a copy of some ones thread ..... gl bud

oh yeah cheack out HCG use it midle and end of cycle.......gl

[Got Gear?]

For that cycle Clomid and Nolvadex should be all you need.

It's pretty low dose, so I'd only use the Nolvadex if you start to see signs of gyno.

For the clomid, start taking the clomid 3 weeks after your last injection.
Do 300mg 1st day
100mg days 2-10
50mg days 11-21

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by rookie
wouldn't take any (nolva) unless i needed it...
keep them on hand ready to use when u notice the slightest signs of gyno... puffy or sore nipples are usually the 1st signs.. in that case take 40mg the 1st few days and then take 20mg/day till the end of ur cycle
follow up with clomid... dosage for clomid:
Day 1 - 300mgs [6 tabs]
Day 2 - 200mgs [4 tabs]
Days 3-14 - 100mg x 12 days [24 tabs]
Days 15-21 - 50mgs x 7 days [7 tabs]


just in case the name fools you this was a copy of some ones thread ..... gl bud

oh yeah cheack out HCG use it midle and end of cycle.......gl

This doseing for the clomid will also work fine. More clomid that what I'd run.

He shouldn't need hCG for a mild 8-10week cycle.

[swolegreaser]

That would be a good first cycle for you. You don't need nolva on hand the doses are to low, BUT if u are prone to getting fatty nips than I would get some for ur piece of mind.

Do ur post cycle therepy 3 WEEKS after ur last shot of DECA. I would run the 300mg 1st day, 150 or 100mg next 10 and 100 or 50mg the last 10 days.
With a good diet, sumpletation, rest, and intense workout ur cycle should be good.
Good LUck Bro.

[Got Gear?]

And I still think you should up the sust to 500mg/wk

[swolegreaser]

You don't need to use the HCG for this cycle bro. It's too mild and wait to use HCG on a long and intense cycle, just have ur clomid and some nolv ready to go.

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by swolegreaser
That would be a good first cycle for you. You don't need nolva on hand the doses are to low, BUT if u are prone to getting fatty nips than I would get some for ur piece of mind.

Do ur post cycle therepy 3 WEEKS after ur last shot of DECA. I would run the 300mg 1st day, 150 or 100mg next 10 and 100 or 50mg the last 10 days.
With a good diet, sumpletation, rest, and intense workout ur cycle should be good.
Good LUck Bro.

Good advice except the Nolva part.

ALWAYS have nolvadex on hand! It's not that expensive, and it's definately worth it when it saves you from growing titties. If nothing else, it's worth it for the piece of mind.

[swolegreaser]

"BUT if u are prone to getting fatty nips than I would get some for ur piece of mind."

That's what I said Got Gear lol....Damm u

[pappapump]

should I worry about any liver problems,hair loss,or extreme acne

[pappapump]

Why do I only start taking the clomid 3 weeks after final injection and not right after final injection.

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by pappapump
should I worry about any liver problems,hair loss,or extreme acne

Well, that's tricky.

You didn't mention D-bol above. If your not taking any oral steroids, you shouldn't have to worry about your liver.

Now for acne and hair loss. That's tricky, some people have a heck of a time with these sides, other people have no problems.

It really depends on if your prone to hair loss and acne. I for example, have no problems with hair loss. But there's not a single person in my family with so much as "thin" hair. However, acne is a problem for me. Not really bad, but it definately gets aggrivated when on cycle. But I've had problems with acne since I was 12 years old... Having said that, it's not so bad as to stop me from taking steroids. It's just a pain in the ass and I make sure I take extra effort combating the acne while on cycle.

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by pappapump
Why do I only start taking the clomid 3 weeks after final injection and not right after final injection.

Hmmm.. OK.

Well, remember I said sustanon was a blend of 4 different testosterone esters? Well, the big difference in these esters is the rate at which they release testosterone into the blood streem. Some of the testosterone esters in sustanon take weeks untill fully released into your blood stream.

For clomid to work, your testosterone levels have to be back down around normal. So we have to wait 3 weeks for our testosterone levels to drop to around normal before taking clomid will help with anything.

[swolegreaser]

pappa the deca stays in ur system for a long time. if u would do clomid right after it, it will be a waste and not do any good. the deca will still be in ur system and after 3 weeks is the general time when the long acting deca will start to diminish and thats when u start to take ur clomid so u can kickstart ur homostasis and get ur hormones back.

With that cycle u shouldnt have any props with the hair loss, u must take ala about 1000mg to 2000mg ED and milk thistle 1000mg ED for the liver protection.
With acne, u shouldnt have any probs during the cycle but if ur PRONE TO ACNE than obviously u will get some. When u start ur clomid therepy get ready for some real bad acne, I got and have some real bad and I have a week left for clomid. It does help thou bro, ur nuts hang again and libido gets high again.


With that cycle

[Got Gear?]

Pappapump, the same thing goes for the Deca as well. Basically, we have to wait until all of the steoids are mostly out of your system. It just so happens that it takes around 3 weeks for both Deca and Sustanon before your hormone levels drop to around normal.

And I'll stick to my assertion that without any oral steroids, liver protection is not needed.