question about AS alternatives

[tinytim]

ok ...so i have been reading my ass off on this board, for about a month, learning and trying to retain as much as possable. i'm trying to plan out my 1st cycle. i have a trusworthy contact for my gear.....but he ships from romaina....and with the us postal system proly being overly freaked out about international packages..im a bit causious about ordering right now.... i have also looked at some advertisements about AS alternatives... anybody know of IMPACT nutrition products......has anyone had good results or ....are they a waste of $$$$....or should i just suck it up and order AS....thanks for your help ..... tiny tim

[CrazyC]

suck it up and order the AS........

[YellowJacket]

Impact Nutrition is a huge scam, when will people learn?! Its highly overpriced, weak pro hormones.

You need a 1-test/4-ad topical compound, either Avant Labs or BDC Nutritions (hint: BDC Nutrition's is cheaper and more potent)

[CrazyC]

like the Sticky post "newbies must read" says, stick around the board for a while a find yourself a domestic source, give it time.....

[tinytim]

thanks guys....it seemd shaddy to me
tinytim

[slobberknocker]

Food is a good alternative. It makes a pretty good addition to gear, too. OK, I'll get off my soapbox now.

[rado]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
Impact Nutrition is a huge scam, when will people learn?! Its highly overpriced, weak pro hormones.

You need a 1-test/4-ad topical compound, either Avant Labs or BDC Nutritions (hint: BDC Nutrition's is cheaper and more potent)

I'll 2nd that too, waste of $$$

[FLEMS]

vpx prob makes the best supps that mimic the real deal.....but they're expensive....you can get decent gains but nothing compare to AS.....do your research.....see what will yield the goals you're looking for and what will do it safely.....thats what i do anyways......you also dont have to stack a million things at once....you can keep it simple

[prolangtum]

Super One+ is the only PH i have heard people have good results. You can get it at 1Fast400.com. Like Dante was saying baout people bashing PHs, if you drank suspension, and didnt see any gains, i guess suspension doesnt work. Its all in the delivery. Of course, i would still take a bottle of Test over any PH you throw at me.

[FLEMS]

Originally posted by alittlewhiteboy
I think I have tiried just about every single thing out there besides Anabolic Steroids. . . Whats my advice, prolly a thousand dollars and months of waiting for gains that never came , here I am looking for some AS :/ Hardest part is stickin it out till you find a good domestic source, thats what I am workin on now, but It comes with time as everything else. I'd rather wait than waist another grand. I would also say the biggest gains I have ever gotten yet where from simply eating right

so why not try something..that at the least is mild and wont yield too many sides......some of the shit you get in stores warns of side affects along the same lines as AS.......without the results.....if you're putting all those pro hormones in your body whats the prob??......

[prolangtum]

Pro Hormones, supposedly convert to steroids in the body, why not take the real deal, putting asider legal issues. Soon PHs will probaly be controlled too.

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by prolangtum
Pro Hormones, supposedly convert to steroids in the body, why not take the real deal, putting asider legal issues. Soon PHs will probaly be controlled too.

Supposedly? Can you provide some data that proves they indeed do not? (doubt it, the dont exist).

[rado]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
Supposedly? Can you provide some data that proves they indeed do not? (doubt it, the dont exist).

correct o mundo kid.

[TKO]

Originally posted by alittlewhiteboy
can someone explain exactly what pro-harmones are? The confuse the hell out of me

Yellow jacket can probably answer this one, he knows his shit.....

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by alittlewhiteboy
can someone explain exactly what pro-harmones are? The confuse the hell out of me

Ahhh...... Pro hormones are 'legal alternatives' to anabolic steriods. I hate to say alternative, because they are becoming fixtures of a growing populations cycles. Pro hormones include but arent limited to 19nor, 3-alpha, 4-ad, 1,4ad, 1-ad, etc. Pro hormones convert via enzymatic reaction to anabolic substances, which promote nitrogen retention, muscle gains, fat, loss, etc. Think of them as mild Steriods. Things like 1-test, although NOT a pro hormone, are VERY potent in muscle growth. On an 8 week cycle, gains for 15-20lbs arent uncommon. PHs are divided up just as AAS are. You have cutting PHs (19nor, 3-alpha, 4-Ad etc.) and bulking PHs (5-alpha, 1-ad, 1,4ad, etc.) Now, you'll hear "Pro hormones suck, they gives you an empty wallet and no gains" I would agree with that if this were 1988. Things have changed, tiems and innovation have changed. You no longer pop 5 andro tabs before you lift and get a back full of acne and tits like my girlfriend. New topical (transdermal) delivery systems have been developed for better and more absorbtion. As for the price, a full 1-test/4-ad stack can be purchased for around $70, thats very cheap IMO. Some brands of pro hormones are a joke, and then you have your very reputable comanies, which include, Molecular Nutrition, BDC Nutrition, Avant Labs, Syntrax, Ergopharms and maybe one or 2 more. PHs can be, just as AAS, homebrewed fairly easily. At my board, anabolicminds.com, we specialize in homebrews of every kind (PHs, AAS, Fat burners, etc.) and have developed a recipe to make a 1-test/4-ad topical compound for very cheap and easy to make. This is a VERY brief and undetailed descritpion of what PHs are, how they work, etc. But if you want to learn more, read around here or visit anabolicminds. Thank you, YJ