IS TAKING STEROIDS CHEATING IN SPORTS

[daved150]

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All those things you mentioned can be bought by young kids. Should young kids be able to do AAS? I mean if it's all on the table...it's got to be on the table for everyone right? Out of the sealskin suit, the shoes, the eye surgery, and AAS...which has the higher risk in medical terms? Which of these potentially have the higher long term risks? If AAS were allowed, it would come down more to who has the most money than ever before. You take a kid from the dumps that is one of the most naturally gifted athletes in your area but can barely afford to buy the equipment to play the sport is good in. Then you take a rich kid with less of the athletic gift BUT has endless amounts of money to spend on AAS. Why should the kid with all the money have the opportunity to take a position away (or future) from a kid that just has the natural ability? How is that fair?

first off let me make this clear....NO WHERE in my post or any other post i've ever posted in all the years i've been here have i suggested kids do steroids. you taking my comment to that extreme is a little goofy to me. i dont want little kids drinking or smoking like adults do either bro....i believe pot should be legal, but i dont think it should be sold to kids either, (for the record. just incase you wondered on my thaught process in regards to shyt that is illeagal to kids!). that being said....the kids with the money DONT have any advantages now? is that what your saying? if it wasnt just for steroids, the playing field between rich kids and poor kids is perfectly level? ok....i dont agree bro. i know kids in highschool that have a personal quarterback coach!! my parent couldnt afford that shyt. in your "what worst medicaly" you left out hypobolic chamber....i dont know bro...if aas are used properly, not abused, monitored by a doctor, are you telling me they will kill me? hurt me in some medical way? is aas worst than some other radical training or strength programs? i dont know....but i know i got the fukin choice to do the other forms of "cheating"...you just dont want me to be able to decide to do that one.
i stand by what i said. i do not see why a profession cannot take performance enhancing drugs... no one said you had to play if you dont want to take them! they can decide how and when to use alcohol, tabacco and what not, i believe they should decide when/if they want to use aas...

[tn94z]

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first off let me make this clear....NO WHERE in my post or any other post i've ever posted in all the years i've been here have i suggested kids do steroids. you taking my comment to that extreme is a little goofy to me. i dont want little kids drinking or smoking like adults do either bro....i believe pot should be legal, but i dont think it should be sold to kids either, (for the record. just incase you wondered on my thaught process in regards to shyt that is illeagal to kids!). that being said....the kids with the money DONT have any advantages now? is that what your saying? if it wasnt just for steroids, the playing field between rich kids and poor kids is perfectly level? ok....i dont agree bro. i know kids in highschool that have a personal quarterback coach!! my parent couldnt afford that shyt. in your "what worst medicaly" you left out hypobolic chamber....i dont know bro...if aas are used properly, not abused, monitored by a doctor, are you telling me they will kill me? hurt me in some medical way? is aas worst than some other radical training or strength programs? i dont know....but i know i got the fukin choice to do the other forms of "cheating"...you just dont want me to be able to decide to do that one.
i stand by what i said. i do not see why a profession cannot take performance enhancing drugs... no one said you had to play if you dont want to take them! they can decide how and when to use alcohol, tabacco and what not, i believe they should decide when/if they want to use aas...

You are correct. I didn't mean that you said anything about kids....I was just using that as a point. I brought that up. It is on the extreme side, but with athletes becoming younger and younger and going pro younger and younger, it is as much a valid point as "goofy." I'm not talking 8-10 year old kids here.

That's not what I am saying. All the points you are bringing up are "legal" as far as sports go. I know kids that went to these coaches in football, baseball, golf, etc....they went to camps every year. But they still lost out to the kids that were naturally gifted. These classes brought them to the level of kids that genetically "had it."

I agree with you on the steroids and that they can be used correctly and what not and they won't "kill" you. But in comparison with the other examples, they are the more medically dangerous.

What other forms of cheating?

I think it should be the other way around. No one says you "have" to play if you can't play without them.

Is alcohol, tobacco, and what not able to give the athletes an athletic advantage over other athletes?

Very valid points though....you are making me think about my stand

[Dzone]

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Recently read an article about how Bruce Lee loved to eat hashish cookies between takes while he was filming movies. Im so disappointed.Fukin cheater...LOL

[ketsugo]

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LMAO- all my teachers from way back talk of how he was a serious drug addict opium, amphetamines- thats how he was able to train so hard- probably what contributed to the brain anuerism that killed him

[tn94z]

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And in all honesty, that's about as far as my opinion goes because I don't know nearly enough about AAS to make any knowledgeable comments on them. So, I am going to jump onto the sidelines and read the rest of the replies. Who knows...this conversation may change my stand on some things.

[tn94z]

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LMAO- all my teachers from way back talk of how he was a serious drug addict opium, amphetamines- thats how he was able to train so hard- probably what contributed to the brain anuerism that killed him

I have heard this before too.

[FUZO]

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ITS TO BAD THAT BRUCE DIED EARLY WOULD OF LOVED TO SEE WHAT HE WOULD HAVE CREATED AS IN THE MARTIAL ARTS.MOVIES,SCHOOLS

[tn94z]

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ITS TO BAD THAT BRUCE DIED EARLY WOULD OF LOVED TO SEE WHAT HE WOULD HAVE CREATED AS IN THE MARTIAL ARTS.MOVIES,SCHOOLS

Agreed

[daved150]

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well, if used and monitored, i really dont see any problem with them. the one with the most money wins is not a good anology. in professional sports every player involved can afford a typical cyc. (whatever that may be). to run a cyc for your specific sport or skill set shouldnt be a problem. if your a lineman that needs more size, a mass gaining cyc, put together by a professional and monitored shouldnt be a problem. the problem lies in the fact that its being done now and NOT monitored!! the problem now is, while athlete A gets away with it, athlete B gets caught!! i know a couple lions players. they use. i know a couple CFL players and they use. they just havnt got caught!! more people use than anyone wants to admit or even know about!! if every professional sports player that used aas AT ANY POINT IN THEIR CAREER was fired, we'd be down to 3 sports teams!! and they'd suck!! (obviously i have no way to know that, but you should get my point)...kids? they use already! dont kid yourself. i dont condone it, and i'd kick my kids ass, but my nephew knows many local kids that use...just the way it is. he used....he still sucked! if you suck in a sport, aas aint a magic pill to make you good!! my nephew could shoot the whole pfizer company into his ass and he still couldnt catch a football!!! trust me, he tried!!! so coming from the angle that it would make poor players better and the good player would loose out is not accurate at all...it will take a good player and HELP him to maximize his potential....but thats all....i cant dunk, hit a baseball or throw for 60yrds to the endzone....and i'm "performanced enhanced" for 5 yrs!!!

[tn94z]

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Points taken. I see what you are saying

[whitetail]

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I don't see how they are going to cut and dry control it? There will always be ways around getting caught. If a guy knows his stuff and sticks with short half life drugs it would be tough to catch him.

What exactly do they test for in mma? Do the look for hormones being way off or just high T?

[FUZO]

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they must just look for testosterone range being off

[rocco-x]

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as long as these players are getting millions of dollars to play a game then there's always gonna be something they want to use as an edge.imho it's the fans fault as much as the players.we cannot compare football players of yesteryear to the ones today.today they get on a months disabled list for a boo boo on their calves but back in the day,from the old clips i've seen,guys would get their teeth knocked out,break fingers and sit out the rest of the quarter but found a way back in the game.that's sports imho.i'm not a fan but those are the true warriors i think.
so it's an iffy subject.most players,baseball/football,only do the basics like test,primo,some hgh but nothing compared to bodybuilding.they're looking for an edge that's all.two sides to a pancake,just depends which side you prefer.