Hardgainer thinking of joining the darkside...

[jipped genes]

Originally posted by prolangtum
There is no such thing as a "hardgainer" There are undereaters, overtrainers, undertrainers, overpartiers, heavy drinkers, under sleepers. Basically its excuse maker, not hardgainer. Eat, lift, sleep.

yep, I am 200# from at my smallest adult weight of 135# I have trained for ever I dropped cardio everyday and started eating 4000-4500 calories a day it's a chore but I gained weight very fast up to 185 without gear.

[hummerluv]

bro u need to get serious about before u start using roids...if u r such a hard gainer you should know that your best bet for training is 3 times per week, based on free weights...squat, bench presses,bent over rows,dead lifts, shoulder press, pull ups. etc heavy squats will help you a lot! be patient though.

your calories need to be up to 3 to 4000 per day, my lil sis eats 2200 and shes lean, so 2500 aint good at all.

rest a lot,avoid cardio and running as well as sports like basketball or in which youy have to move alot.

and for your 1st cycle i d wait to get some gains first and then i d hit some like deca,test enath & winstrol

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by x|Fluid|x
I disagree. You obviously arent a hard gainer. Not everyones body is the same. You can take two different people, same height, same weight, same training regime, same diet - I gaurentee you they wont grow the same.

actually,
I graduated HS weighing 130. 5 years later im 240.

[x|Fluid|x]

Originally posted by prolangtum
actually,
I graduated HS weighing 130. 5 years later im 240.

so you obviously arent a hardgainer.

[prolangtum]

My gains stalled, its all in the diet bro, diet, good AAS cycles, and supplements, i trianed extremely hard all my HS years, and couldnt bench over 145 lbs.

[x|Fluid|x]

Originally posted by prolangtum
My gains stalled, its all in the diet bro, diet, good AAS cycles, and supplements, i trianed extremely hard all my HS years, and couldnt bench over 145 lbs.

I agree, and congratulations on your accomplishment! Thats quite a weight gain.

[Tripod]

Thanks for the continuing advice.

I do not seem to have trouble putting on weight, its just that is seems to be more fat thatn anything else!

3000 to 5000 cal/day seems like a lot, and obviously most of it must be in carbs. What kind of carbs are you guys taking in
(high/low glycemic) to get that many cals. and what time of day are you doing it?

[pigmeat]

if you bulk bro, you gonna put on some fat.Just keep your training simple.each body part 1 time a week.10-12 sets per body part. To put on mass you need to build strength.You do this by doing HEAVY compound excersises like deadlifts,squats,rows , chins military.ect. Dont bother with the isolation and cable excersises. reps around 6-8. Do this and eat like a horse and i gaurantee you will grow.

[Tripod]

Pigmeat,

Thanks. Your suggested regiment is almost exactly what I have been doing since Nov. (except for the "eating like a horse"). Heavy freeweights, 1 muscle group per day per week, simple exercises (no sqats because of knees).

I'll take another look at my diet and try to work in some more carbs in the morning and a little more protein throughout the day.

Thanks again to everyone for the advice.

[prolangtum]

i ate 4000-4500 cals for a bout 2 years straight. 3/4 low glycemic (oatmeal, yams, wheat bread) 1/4 sugars postworkout, and jellies in the morning. Buy yourslef a couple jars of natty PB too, even know i go thru at least 2 a week.

[prolangtum]

Oh yeah, screw 800 egg whites a week, eat red meat, pork, whatever, i was always scared of fat, now i eat damn near 150g a day.

[BullFX]

Re: Re: Hardgainer thinking of joining the darkside...

Originally posted by x|Fluid|x
1) I'm a hard gainer. I'm 5'11", Ive gone from 120lbs to 195lbs @ 8% bf

2) Yes its possible. It's highly unlikely that you will want to stop after you do your first cycle :p

ya im with fluid on this

its really possible bro... I was 120lbs also 2yrs ago but i came up all the way naturally to 175 lbs... ( 5'6 tall) now i weight 196

[x|Fluid|x]

196? you bastard. :p

[THE JUICE]

Welcome to the darkside, hehehehehehe. :2gunsfiri

[x|Fluid|x]

time for your initiation..pull down your pants...