Thought I'd share a cycle

[Stout1]

Re: Thought I'd share a cycle

Did you find that article skyefire posted stout?

Well, I'm going to want to be hitting it hard the whole way through, what's wrong w the drol at the end?

He is comaring Tren Enath to Tren Acestate sides which have NO correlation to the "strength" of each other. Tren E has worse sides due to blood fluctuation levels, not being "stronger". The longer the ester the less horomone there is available, there is no logical explanation to say any other thing.

Also there is no need for someone with your stats to start off with a gear of Test. You should cut that in half or down to 600 and add somethign else in there such as Deca or Tren E if your looking to bulk, never used EQ but I heard too many mixed results for me to try it yet.

The drol. I wouldn't end a cycle with a harsh compound like that. Your going to ballon up and balloon back down in water weight at the end.

Isn't this your 2nd cycle? You did technically run a 2nd cycle but cut it short. So say this is your 2nd cycle, if you run a gram of shit now what you going to run your 4th or 5 cycle? 3 grams?

[Skarhead]

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"Seventh misconception: Short esters are better then long esters testosterone or vice versa. Well that depends on what you want. Some of the shorter esters may cause you hold less water and some may give better muscle and weight gains. The key word here is “may”. There are some proven benefits and cons to both. Pros for the long esters are fewer injects hence less scar tissue, automatic tapering of your dosages, far less likely to be painful upon injection, tend to mask irritating hormones like boldenone, and possibly a stronger anabolic affect. Cons include possibly high rate of water retention, a long period of time for the depot to build up to a level that the desired dosage is released, and most importantly there is a ramp down time (time it take the hormone to clear from the body) before you can start post cycle therapy"


Hes not saying definately,but it could, but either way its test so who cares

I see what you're saying about the high doses... bump up the test every 250 mg maybe? at some point im going to curb the gear and protein as i wantt o stay in a weight class

[Phreak]

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i wouldn't end a cycle with drol, but that's just me. talk about a crash! yikes...

i don't think you need insulin either. if and when you get to 250-260lbs. and you want to break through a plateau, then maybe- but it isn't necessary and is too risky at your stage.

[whitetail]

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Hes not saying definately,but it could, but either way its test so who cares

I see what you're saying about the high doses... bump up the test every 250 mg maybe? at some point im going to curb the gear and protein as i wantt o stay in a weight class

just curious how much you weigh now and what weight class you want to fall into?

[SMILEY FACE]

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I want to go on, sometime. dont know when

1-20 1 gram Test U
1-4, 8-12, 21-24 12 - 15 IUs of slin
1-8 Dbol at 40mg/ed
15-23 50-100mg drol e/d

test u???? but ok testy at 1000
slin, u are doing toooo much(i mean to many times).
run slin from week 1 to week 5 and take off and come back from week 15 to week 20 or week 22 to week 27 wt ur pct

i would do the anadrol first
and dbol at the end

[Sven]

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this cycle is actually laid out more intelligently than one would think.

here are my comments on it...

I dont think the difference between undec and cyp esters are enough to make a noticable difference. Stick with Cyp or Enanth OR run 500mgs/wk Sust and 500mgs/wk Enanth. With you being on that long I would have a variance of esters or at least switch them in the middle of your cycle..

I can see the reasoning behind ending your cycle with drol, it has a short half life and it would be for setting up pct kinda like most of us do with prop at the end while our long esters die out. I think prop is a better choice, however, because you wont have such a dramatic fluctuation in weight at the end of your cycle. As you know if its gained fast its gone fast. (stick to prop at the end)

As for runnning a gram and having to do more gear next time you cycle.
That implies that your receptors downregulate, well, they dont. If you take proper time off, at least 10 -12 weeks MINIMUM, your receptors will "refresh" for lack of a better term. And allow that gram to work again next cycle to its full potential. That 1 gram a week will work again, the only point in which you would have to increase your doses would be when you are as big as 1 gram a week will get you. (this will take some time...lol..)

You will get sides from that much gear and they will be harsh, but you will grow more than you ever thought possible.

Skar, please pm me before you decide to run this or any cycle so we can talk about it...

[Sven]

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I dont see a problem with running slin 4 on 4 off as long as you are using it PWO only.

I think you used your brain when you thought of this cycle, I like it when you do that

[Phreak]

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there are plenty of guys who have built huge, MASSIVE physiques without insulin. i am not saying that it doesn't have it's place, i just don't see why Skar would need to incur the risk at this stage in his development.

like i said, if he was 275lbs and 3+ grams a week wasn't cutting it any more, then maybe it would be time to consider slin/gh etc., but at a bodyweight of less than 200 pounds?

i just think he could accomplish his goals without it.

[Skarhead]

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I have a BG monitor. testing if im slin resistant or not is EASY... 4on 4 off is usually the standard. if i start to get resistant , i wont run it, and theres many natural ways to get it back to normal.

i don't see how i'll crash coming off the drol though.. once your shut down your shut down... im 195ish now, i want to wait to hit 200 to start, i want to be 220 weight class, i am 198 now. My #s are decent and will be more than enough to start now.. i should total over 1200 this meet, which isnt near what i want, but good for first

[Skarhead]

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oh yeah btw , all god advice

[Sven]

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The only thing I would do different on the slin is run it 10ius PWO.

The only reason Im running mine at 15ius is b/c Im on GH too, and GH is known to lower your insulin sensitivity.

I'm sure Skarhead will wait a long time before running this cycle.

[Sven]

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I have a BG monitor. testing if im slin resistant or not is EASY... 4on 4 off is usually the standard. if i start to get resistant , i wont run it, and theres many natural ways to get it back to normal.

Read up on Glucophage. There is a good article on it at Basskiller's site.
Then, go buy some.

[Fit2bLarge]

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you need script for glucophage in new york city

[whitetail]

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im sure you will get your 20-25lbs, keep us posted, good luck

[Sven]

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you need script for glucophage in new york city

I think thats everywhere, but I dont get it from the pharmacy, although you can go to a pharmacy "up north" and get it without a script.