decided on test, now how much

[magnus]

im trying to keep it simple and not looking for crazy gains and i dont want all the bloat associated with test(i know a lot is dependent on diet). SO its either a long like 20 weeker of 250 mg test e a week. Or a shorter 12 weeker of 500 mg a week. ITs been over a year since i have done any gear and i never have gone to high in mgs per week, 750 mg was the highest. What do you guys think will be the better route, keep in mind im trying to keep hair loss at a minimum and only desire like 10 lbs of lean muscle over the cycle. So what do you guys think?

[Stout1]

Re: decided on test, now how much

im trying to keep it simple and not looking for crazy gains and i dont want all the bloat associated with test(i know a lot is dependent on diet). SO its either a long like 20 weeker of 250 mg test e a week. Or a shorter 12 weeker of 500 mg a week. ITs been over a year since i have done any gear and i never have gone to high in mgs per week, 750 mg was the highest. What do you guys think will be the better route, keep in mind im trying to keep hair loss at a minimum and only desire like 10 lbs of lean muscle over the cycle. So what do you guys think?

If you are worried about bloat take some aromasin or some l-dex for that.

If you are worried about hairloss there is things such as ********/finasteride or some other topical solutions such as nizoral shampoo.

But on to your question on doses. I would personall run a 12 week cycle of 500mg/wk with an ancillary of some sort to control bloat such as l-dex or aromasin.

[bowbow]

Re: decided on test, now how much

12 weeks at 500mgs is my suggestion.

[mick-G]

Re: decided on test, now how much

Whats your stats? You can still gain off 300mg/wk. Ive done it after being off for along time, and since you have been off a yr, you should do well on it. 12wks and i agree with alittle aroma or ldex thruout. Sometimes less is better and it might be in this case.

[angryoldman]

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I like and agree with Dan Duchaine's old theory.
" How much should you inject each week? Nothing less than 600 mg of testosterone a week will do the job. Remember, the first few testosterone injections of your life will be your most productive ones. I hate to say this, but those great stories of how so-and-so gained 50 pounds of muscle in just a few weeks are often distorted. These dramatic weight gains are ONE SHOT DEALS. Your FIRST steroid encounter is, perhaps, the ONLY ONE that will give you significant gains. DON’T fart those gains away with chicken-shit dosages or with some girlie, weak-assed steroid. If you are a male, and you want to use testosterone to get big and strong, then jam 600 to 1000 mg of either testosterone enanthate or cypionate once a week. The USH II will give you the step-by-steps on needles, but the short version is that you want a three cc syringe, with a needle at least one inch long, either 22 or 23 gauge. Inject all the testosterone that you are going to use for the week at the same time. If you using 600 mg of testosterone enanthate or cypionate, this is the full three cc oil."

[firstenrgy]

Re: decided on test, now how much

I like and agree with Dan Duchaine's old theory.
" How much should you inject each week? Nothing less than 600 mg of testosterone a week will do the job. Remember, the first few testosterone injections of your life will be your most productive ones. I hate to say this, but those great stories of how so-and-so gained 50 pounds of muscle in just a few weeks are often distorted. These dramatic weight gains are ONE SHOT DEALS. Your FIRST steroid encounter is, perhaps, the ONLY ONE that will give you significant gains. DON’T fart those gains away with chicken-shit dosages or with some girlie, weak-assed steroid. If you are a male, and you want to use testosterone to get big and strong, then jam 600 to 1000 mg of either testosterone enanthate or cypionate once a week. The USH II will give you the step-by-steps on needles, but the short version is that you want a three cc syringe, with a needle at least one inch long, either 22 or 23 gauge. Inject all the testosterone that you are going to use for the week at the same time. If you using 600 mg of testosterone enanthate or cypionate, this is the full three cc oil."

Add an anabolic like deca or EQ and I agree.

[mick-G]

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AOM, i just dont agree at all with this theory, lol! Theres no reason he needs to do 600-1000mg/wk of testosterone for a second cycle. Even at 300-400mg/wk he will be getting way more than his body would ever produce on its own.

[Skarhead]

Re: decided on test, now how much

U're asking a hard question IMO, as no one really knows how much test you're going to grow off of.... personally taking 250mg even for 20 weeks would probably be a waste of time for me. I dont think 500 for 12 weeks would do a whole lot for me either.

I say go with how ever much you think you need. If you think you can grow and make good gains off of 250mg/week go for it.

Run ancillaries if you WANT, but IMO, if you don't need them, you're wasting money and a slightt bit of gains.

[magnus]

Re: decided on test, now how much

maybe ill start off at like 375 mgs a week and if i need bump it up. Am i right in assuming that if im already prone to hair loss, less test should be less harsh?

[Stout1]

Re: decided on test, now how much

maybe ill start off at like 375 mgs a week and if i need bump it up. Am i right in assuming that if im already prone to hair loss, less test should be less harsh?

You can get stuff to combat the hairloss problem.

[ICON]

Re: decided on test, now how much

maybe ill start off at like 375 mgs a week and if i need bump it up. Am i right in assuming that if im already prone to hair loss, less test should be less harsh?

Im sure you will still be happy with your gains at 375mgs a week. IMO I would go ahead with the 500mg per week for 12 weeks. What ever you choice good luck on your cycle.

[magnus]

Re: decided on test, now how much

You can get stuff to combat the hairloss problem.

i realize that but my issue is my hairline at the forehead, i have no issues with the top of my head(which is wair finasteride) and most other hair supplements help.

[pigmeat]

Re: decided on test, now how much

that is some of the worst advice i have seen....fuck dan duchaine...I have been doing aas for 6 years with a few long breaks, and 400 mg a week, will still put some good strength and 8-10 pounds of good mass.
And please explain why the hell you would want to inject all 3cc of test at once? What advantage would that have, other than increasing your chances of a sore ass!!!

I like and agree with Dan Duchaine's old theory.
" How much should you inject each week? Nothing less than 600 mg of testosterone a week will do the job. Remember, the first few testosterone injections of your life will be your most productive ones. I hate to say this, but those great stories of how so-and-so gained 50 pounds of muscle in just a few weeks are often distorted. These dramatic weight gains are ONE SHOT DEALS. Your FIRST steroid encounter is, perhaps, the ONLY ONE that will give you significant gains. DON’T fart those gains away with chicken-shit dosages or with some girlie, weak-assed steroid. If you are a male, and you want to use testosterone to get big and strong, then jam 600 to 1000 mg of either testosterone enanthate or cypionate once a week. The USH II will give you the step-by-steps on needles, but the short version is that you want a three cc syringe, with a needle at least one inch long, either 22 or 23 gauge. Inject all the testosterone that you are going to use for the week at the same time. If you using 600 mg of testosterone enanthate or cypionate, this is the full three cc oil."

[Skarhead]

Re: decided on test, now how much

that is some of the worst advice i have seen....fuck dan duchaine...I have been doing aas for 6 years with a few long breaks, and 400 mg a week, will still put some good strength and 8-10 pounds of good mass.
And please explain why the hell you would want to inject all 3cc of test at once? What advantage would that have, other than increasing your chances of a sore ass!!!

i think you're one of the lucky ones and respond to gear real well bc i think for most people who've done a few cycles 400 mgs wouldn't do shit.

[pigmeat]

Re: decided on test, now how much

i think you're one of the lucky ones and respond to gear real well bc i think for most people who've done a few cycles 400 mgs wouldn't do shit.

you arent going to get huge, but it does the job....remember my friend...its 90% about diet and training. If you cant add muscle with 400 mg a week, you are doing something wrong. period! hell, if you need any aas to gain, you probaplly train, eat, or rest wrong.