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  • #31
    Re: Help On Planning Next Cycle

    Originally posted by mick-G
    Still i believe taking 400mg/wk and up of long ester test will not fluctuate blood levels in one wk to make any changes in sides etc. I have done many cycles with long esters and all injects of one a wk and never any probs with sides or results and i have done them both ways. Actually hrt is one inject e3w and we're talking here of 400mg/wk and higher one shot a wk will have no prob with blood level stablitly. Sorry but iam going with what i have heard from drs and personal experience and not on what some guy on a board determines to be fact and make his own conclusions, lol!
    HRT usage is WAY different that what we are looking for. Why would you shoot one time a week and let precious gear get out of your system. It just doesn't make sense. The more stable blood levels the more gear you will have in you and LESS sides. The more gear you have in you the more likely to grow. HRT usage is no where near in comparison to bodybuilding applications.....

    And this just isnt from some guy on the board. It is what is taught to prevent sides such as acne, water retention, mood swings, etc. You can not argue the fact that unstable blood levels do not lead to sides.

    They may not cause sides for you, but it will for most. Even SVEN had trouble with Tren E at 400mg/wk shooting it one time. I am on my second cycle and have no problems from TREN E at all. SVEN is a way way more experienced useer than I.


    Originally posted by bigmack69 of Steroidology:

    Testosterone Replacement Therapy
    Wayne J.G. Hellstrom, M.D.
    Tulane University Medical Center
    New Orleans, LA


    Intramuscular injection

    Testosterone cypionate and enanthate are frequently used parenteral preparations that provide a safe means of hormone replacement in hypogonadal men. Testosterone is esterified to inhibit degradation and to make it soluble in oil-based injection vehicles that retain the drug in muscle tissue. In men 20-50 years of age, an intramuscular injection of 200 to 300 mg testosterone enanthate is generally sufficient to produce serum testosterone levels that are supranormal initially and fall into the normal ranges over the next 14 days. Fluctuations in testosterone levels may yield variations in libido, sexual function, energy, and mood. Some patients may be inconvenienced by the need for frequent testosterone injections.11 Increasing the dose to 300 to 400 mg may allow for maintenance of eugonadal levels of serum testosterone for up to three weeks, but higher doses will not lengthen the eugonadal period.12
    Last edited by Stout1; 08-23-2005, 04:04 PM.
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    • #32
      Re: Help On Planning Next Cycle

      Originally posted by teutonic
      Thanks all for your input here...man..decisions..decisions!

      Hey stout..just a question..a couple of people have said that I dont need the Prop at the end..that it wont really do anything to help. Why do you think I should keep it. Will it help maintain gains? put more weight on?? Not questioning you..just want to know if their is any reasoning behind it. Thanks bro for all your help so far.

      Still dont know if I will be doing 400 or 500mg a week of TREN E...depends at what dosage I can get it at. But I will be shooting it 2x a week Mon/Thur
      Bump what SVEN said.

      But if the guy you get TREN E from makes it at 250mg/ml you can still do 400mg/wk. Just be less volume to inject
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      • #33
        Re: Help On Planning Next Cycle

        Thanks Stout1 you've been really helpful. If I get tren e at 250mg and want to do 400mg a week thats just a pain in the ass to try and measure out....yes/no???

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        • #34
          Re: Help On Planning Next Cycle

          Originally posted by teutonic
          Thanks Stout1 you've been really helpful. If I get tren e at 250mg and want to do 400mg a week thats just a pain in the ass to try and measure out....yes/no???
          .8 cc of 250mg/ml Tren E = 200mg Tren

          Basically go up 8 lines on your syringe and your good to go.
          Thomas Jefferson - "When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny."


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          • #35
            Re: Help On Planning Next Cycle

            Thanks for figuring that out for me..

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