agrument..well discussion

[space mountain]

today in gym with a member. this bro is jacked so he does know his shit i guess lol. two diff arguements he says this..

1. u must taper off of gear when coming off cycle. he says he goes down a 200 mg per week.
2. if u do right your blood levels wont change at all while on. ex. if u do 12 weeks like suppose to do etc youll be fine with the levels but if u abuse they will go out of wack.


any thoughts?

[G-reg]

Re: agrument..well discussion

no need to taper if you have proper post cycle therapy.. (clomid, nolvadex etc.)


the longer your on the longer your natural test is suppressed...many folks are different. some bounce right back some takes longer. depends on the person.

[Equalizer]

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tapering is not needed IMO, especially with todays pct drugs.

[mick-G]

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It does and it doesn't

[JsJs24]

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Everyone is different so blood levels are going to be affected more so on some individuals and less on others. As for tapering, well, some people swear by it and others don't. I have done it both ways and not noticed a difference really. I would just pick a dose and run it straight through the entire cycle.

[TSR1969]

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tapering is useless imo. you may as well let your aas levels drop immediately down to the point where your body will start to produce test again. so waiting while aas dwindles down to almost nothing before your body starts producing the test that will allow you to keep your gains is silly. the guy doesnt know what he's talking about. that is why guys end with an oral, or prop, get the long esters out of your system, and then jump on your pct so you start to make test again and keep as much of your cycle gains as you can.

[cbr929]

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tapering does nothing as soon as you introduce a foreign substance (test) into the body no matter how small a does you body stops making it on its own because it doesn't need to if your going to put it in your body

[space mountain]

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^^^ my point exactly

[badasz32]

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a certain amount of ass supresses natural test. so lowering the doasage will only get u less results from gear. the drug will have a lil quicker of a time clearing but IMO its not worth it. i would finish with prop for 3-4 weeks. get the pct in quicker.

[Skarhead]

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Dont always listen to the bigger guys. a lot of the times they do things that work for them and think it's universal that it'll work for everone else.


Im gonna go ahead and disagree about arguing against tapering and people arguing about having lower dosages.
If what you are saying is true about low dosages than WTF are cruises for? so you can recover somewhat? yes?

[cbr929]

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How do you somewhat recover? Your body isn't like hey he's putting 50mg's in me so I just need to pick up the slack and produce just enough test. My idea of cruising ws so you could give your body a break from the high dosages while still not coming completely off

[Skarhead]

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Not sure, but I know DC does blast/cruise cycles and he actually runs PCT on his cruise cycles and apparently it works

[cbr929]

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DC is a very smart guy but IMO there is just know way to recover when your still putting test into your body.

[Skarhead]

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but you can't agree that it would be easier to recover from if tapered?

[cbr929]

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How would it be easier to recover....be it 250mg or 1gram it will be out of your system at the same time...If your body wasn't producing natural test how can it tell the diffence between the dosage you ran when you come off.... either way what ever dosage you run you are completely shut down so it has to recover from that not partially shut down