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  • #16
    Re: agrument..well discussion

    if its 250mg it will be out quicker. in 12 days its 125mg, in 24 days its 62.5 which isnt enough to surpress your HPTA.

    1000mg well in 12days its 500mg and in 24 its 250mg which would still surpress natty test.

    this isnt not valid with use of pct to boost natural test production.
    Badasz1@Hushmail.com

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    • #17
      Re: agrument..well discussion

      Your body doesnt begin suppressing natural test until the supplemented test exceeds it. You can still take very low dosages in the morning and not have it suppress your natural levels (around 70mgs a week). It also has to be a very short ester like Dbol.

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      • #18
        Re: agrument..well discussion

        Originally posted by Gooseneck
        Your body doesnt begin suppressing natural test until the supplemented test exceeds it. You can still take very low dosages in the morning and not have it suppress your natural levels (around 70mgs a week). It also has to be a very short ester like Dbol.
        yup. 10 mgs in the morning shouldnt suppress, althoughi think it could tos ome people


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        • #19
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          yeah but 70mg a week is about normal test. so why run synthetic test when you could get that naturally. and yes 10mg d-bol in the am for a cruise, it tricks your body into thinking its your normal morning hormone spike.
          Badasz1@Hushmail.com

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          • #20
            Re: agrument..well discussion

            like i said before your body is not going to work side by side with a synthetic test as soon as it's in your body it will shut down.....So what your saying is you could run 50mg's a week and your body would still produce it's 70mg's since your not over what your body makes, No Way

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            • #21
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              How is it out of your body any quicker if you run 500mg test or 1gram of test E you wait 2 weeks before you start PCT right?......And if you could run low doses of test and not be shut down then why run PCT just run a real low dose of test instead... because it keeps you shut down.

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              • #22
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                cbr your right 50mg would shut a person down. any small amount would surpress natural test. i was stating the u normally make about 70mg. so running that or anything under is pointless.

                agreed that 2 weeks time might not be enough if uyour running high doses. take the amount of the drug and the half life.
                Badasz1@Hushmail.com

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                • #23
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                  I hope you guys aren't taking me the wrong way I'm not getting heated over this I love debates like this

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                  • #24
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                    i dont think your gettin heated.

                    when levels of synthetic test are clear the body naturally starts producing test. if u have i higher amount of gear it will take longer for it all to be clear. use the 1/2 life as a mathematical equation.

                    lets say(thoeretically) that when all, i mean 0mg of synthetic test are in the body natural test production starts.

                    well it would take longer for the body to get rid of 1k mg then it would 500mg.
                    in 24 days the 1k is 500mg.
                    Badasz1@Hushmail.com

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                    • #25
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                      this is not valid shen using pct items. they tell the body to start regular production. that is why no matter what amount of test cyp u start pct 2 weeks later. it gives the drug a chance to decrease in 1/2 the strength.
                      Badasz1@Hushmail.com

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                      • #26
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                        just because you use more test doesn't mean the Half life is any long nor the active life

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                        • #27
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                          the half life is how long the subtance takes to decrease in half.

                          im confusing myself now. ill be back with something. maybe im wrong.
                          Badasz1@Hushmail.com

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                          • #28
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                            your right but the Ester has an active life and it's active life isn't going to change just because your run a higher dose

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                            • #29
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                              Yes, but it will take longer to leave your system, because of a higher amount of depo buildup. Now the detection, well that of course depends of what ester you are using.

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                              • #30
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                                then why do you still wait 2 weeks after your last injection to start PCT regardless your dose? The ester is not whats shutting you down

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