I started my first cycle in 2 years......

[Equalizer]

While this is a bulking cycle I dont intend to get all puffy and look like shit, Im just not prone to getting like that even when my diet is shitty and im using androgens, just lucky I guess, im tall so maybe that helps. With that being said I am gonna eat clean still. This is gonna be my 5th/6th cycle, but the first one in 2 years. Not only did I take 2 years off from the juice but from the gym period and in the past 3 months of training ive been able to pack on about 10-15lbs lean but my total weight is still down about 30lbs from when I quit training, 6'2 211lbs right now. My goals is to hit 230-2340 and I think taking all things into consideration this isnt gonna be a problem, Ive never gained less than 15lbs on a cycle and that wasnt one I took too seriously. Everything is feeling good, body is healed from injuries I neglected in the past, workout routine is solid, have all my supplements (liv52,vitc&e,glutamine,multivitamin,milk thistle,protein) and Im really determined. Sustanon is Organon Holland amps, Cypionate is Upjohn Test Depot, and the Turnabol is BD.

Cycle:
Sus250 - 1cc every 3 days for 12 weeks
Cyp200 - 1cc every 5 days for 14 weeks
Turnabol - 50mgs/day for 6-8 weeks (on the way, will began in 2-3 weeks)
Liquidex- .5mg/day throughout cycle
Insulin - 10-15IU Post Workout
Clomid - 10 days after last shot 100mg day for 2 wks, 50mgs day for 3 wks

[Stout1]

Re: I started my first cycle in 2 years......

Why the Sust and Cyp combo?

Why the sus period actually? And only injecting 1 cc E3D. Thats too long of a time frame, you need to inject Sust ED or EOD to utilize all the esters in it.

[Equalizer]

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the reason for the combo is it was the only available human grade I had that I could trust, which was a huge deal for me.....my source is a stand up guy so I didnt have any worries on legitimacy, and both are of the best quality, that is the only reason for running them like this, i had a cyp/eq/dbol cycle ready but it was UG stuff, so i dumped it when i came across this.....yes Im aware of the esters, there is only 30mgs of prop so I dont think its gonna be a huge deal waiting one more day, had thought about running the sus eod then running the cyp after and I still may do this just for simplicity. Only the second time ive used sustanon, I used the redijects my first cycle 5 years ago at 1 rediject every 5 days with 300mgs of eq(which was 6ccs of fort dodge cuzz that is all that made at the time) and gained 26lbs. Ive used about everything even though ive only done 5-6 previous a couple were very long cycles rotating things in and out, I will never do that again, one of the factors that led to my layoff. I actually went ahead and shot another sustanon amp today and i did the first on friday so i may go with that eod then rotate the cyp when i run out of the 30 amps I have(28 now). Im glad you brought that up I want some feedback on that....

keep it how it is or
1cc sus eod for 2 months then 3.5ccs of cyp a week for the remainder, I have 2 bottles of it. what do you guys think??

[Equalizer]

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alt. would look like this, only 3 days in so I can make some revisions:

1cc of sustanon eod for wks 1-8
3.5 ccs of cyp wk for wks 9-14
50mgs tbol wks 4-10 or should I just finish up with it 8-14 (its on its way, I dont have it yet)
run the insulin,liquidex,clomid as described before and possibly adding some hcg in there at 500mgs for the 10days before starting clomid.

[badasz32]

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i would use the sust and the short esters first, the short ester will get u gaining faster and finish with the cyp. it just makes more sense that way. I know u can make gains of sust shooting twice a week, my first cycle was t-400 and that is a blen and i gained like a mad man shooting 2 times per week. its jsut that your not getting full use of all the esters.

[SMILEY FACE]

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everything looks good..but i don't like sust and cyp at the same time coz of the blood level wouldn't be stable..but mick g said it's ok..i guess it is...

[Equalizer]

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You know what I switched it up I went ahead and took my second shot yesterday and Im just gonna run the sus eod then finish with the cyp....why i didnt think about it before I have no idea,lol.....

[mick-G]

Re: I started my first cycle in 2 years......

You can do it either way, lol! Sust is actually recommended to be run e3d, but you know how bber's can be, lol! I have personally run Sustanon e3d Mon/Thur split with very excellent results, so i don't see any reason why adding cypionate of 300mg would hurt, especially if it is UpJohn, lmao!! I have been, and i know i shouldn't...been hitting UpJohn for 300mg eow, and even at that dosage, damn!! Im starting to get big!! and ive been off cycle for 9months. I wonder what you will be like after two yrs of no use?? I got to get some more of this stuff!!

[SMILEY FACE]

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more up john!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hmmmm

[Equalizer]

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i dont think i can go wrong either way......im gonna run the amps eod and do the cyp at the end like 3.5ccs every week for about another 5-6 weeks, yes the 2 years off is so nice........I really dont think it is gonna be a problem hitting 235, the combo off time off, knowledge, and aas are a huge advantage for me this time. thats a lean 235 too not fat head 235.

[Skarhead]

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Running ldex throughout is stupid

[Equalizer]

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why u say that? i actually havent started it yet because it I just ordered it

[Equalizer]

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to be honest I dont gain water weight very easily, dont know if it is because of my diet, genetics or what but i just dont.

[Equalizer]

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and ive only ran it one time in the past....but why do u say that?

[Equalizer]

Re: I started my first cycle in 2 years......

Running ldex throughout is stupid

tell me how u really feel, lol