Deca or EQ

[mick-G]

Re: Deca or EQ

Thanks mick- What do you mean by split the dosages?

Badasz32 answered your question. You don't really have to split the test dosages though, but if your going to split the equipoise dosages, you might as well split the test with the eq twice ew. As far as doing deca and the "deca dick" this is why i used durabolin (Nandrolone Phenylpropionate) the fast acting one, because i didn't experience it as much and could still function. My suggestion if you ever use the Deca use the Durabolin -Nandrolone Phenylpropionate instead. BM India makes an excellent one. You will have less sides and not as long of recovery.

[geesler]

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Thanks for all the info guys!

[badasz32]

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to keep off bloat i use ldex and u have to use nolva with it for your lipid profile, and the proviron is just add tightness. Like i said i dont like to bloat bad. this def. does the trick.

[Skarhead]

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Yes, using L-Dex and Nolva will hinder your gains somewhat. If u're not prone to gyno why the fuck would you run them? Wasting valuble pct ancillaries,money, putting more harmful compunds in your body, and hindering gains just b/c u're too much of a ***** to hold ..like what... 5-7 lbs of water???? IMO, If you dont like bloat dont run gear that causes it.

[mick-G]

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This is what i do when i don't want to run multiple anti-e's. I usually run ldex .25mg ed, and proviron. No need to run nolva and ldex together, unless you know you are prone to gyno. I also take red yeast rice which will help with lipids without taking nolva. I take 600mg of it ed one cap in the morn and one in the evening with my evening meal. You could run the l-dex and cut back his nolva dosage to 10mg or you could just run the l-dex and see how it works. If you begin to notice sign of gyno then you could introduce the nolva @20mg per day and taper back down toward 10mg/day. We do need some estrogen,but not much.
Is this your first cycle? You should know how sensitive you are to AAS and adjust dosages of SERM according to that. If it is your first time I would only use one SERM at a time like the l-dex @.25/eda meal.

[geesler]

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Is this your first cycle? You should know how sensitive you are to AAS and adjust dosages of SERM according to that. If it is your first time I would only use one SERM at a time like the l-dex @.25/eda meal.

Yes researching for a first cycle. I have done ph (4ad/m1t) before several times before, the last time was 6 weeks 4ad, 3 weeks (last 3) w/ m1t and at the end had quite sensitive nips, always ran nolva and clomid for pct. Had done thee same before with letro throughout and did not have sensitive nips and not as much water weight. From the sensitive nips though I think I may be prone to gyno so would definately want to watch out for that.

[Skarhead]

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Lke i said before, dont run ANY ancillaries , just have Nolvadex ON HAND in case you get gyno.

[muscle_n_blood]

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Nolvadex has always served me well for gyno and bloat minimization. I will ruin a bit of clomid with it post cycle.

Personally, I prefer EQ to any nandrolone. I had fair gains off laurabolin, but EQ is better for me. Add test. I have run EQ alone, but the gains were mediocre. There were no sides I could recognize. No trouble with The Johnson, either.

I am a firm believer in a test only first cycle for a guy. Add deca on a second one...it might work better for you. EQ on a third. (or the other way round) It takes a long time to really get a feel what your body responds to, but it is worth it. With a test base and proper diet/training, you will make decent gains on all these cycles. Plus, you will know very well what you respond to and what you don't. It will save you lots of money, and yeild much more long term success with fewer side effects.

[Equalizer]

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ive done a eq/dbol only cycle and the gains were solid, I ran the eq for 10 weeks and the dbol for 8 and I gained and kept almost all of it, the dose of eq was 400mgs/wk and dbol was 35mgs day...some will say you need to run eq longer or higher but I dont find that to be true, I really love that shit and it has been in almost every cycle except the current one.

[badasz32]

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i highly doubt running a lil nolva nd ldex will significantly hinder gains. too much hype about it. why do gear if your not happy with your body.

[Shiner22nd]

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Personally, I prefer Deca over EQ...but like I said "personally". This is just based on the extra muscle mass added with Deca. But keep in mind, you Also get a lot more bloat, however once that is gone you might find that you've gained more actual muscle mass.

This was my "personal" experience.....good luck bro

[Phreak]

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deca is awesome for the joints. great strength gains as well. yeah, in high doses it can make you smooth, and it will increase your prolactin levels substantially. but, if you adhere to a strict diet, drink lots of water, and take 200 mg/day of B-6 you really shouldn't have a problem unless you are prone.

i've never run EQ before, but i'm going to try a high dose 14 weeker here in about a month.

i'm in the later half of a deca/winny 8 weeker and have made absolutely fantastic gains in both size and strength. i'm not holding much water at all.

[HungarianBeast]

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deca is awesome for the joints. great strength gains as well. yeah, in high doses it can make you smooth, and it will increase your prolactin levels substantially. but, if you adhere to a strict diet, drink lots of water, and take 200 mg/day of B-6 you really shouldn't have a problem unless you are prone.

Lke i said before, dont run ANY ancillaries , just have Nolvadex ON HAND in case you get gyno.

^^So...keeping nolvadex on hand will not help with this. ^^

Just the B6 will.

[Phreak]

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^^So...keeping nolvadex on hand will not help with this. ^^

Just the B6 will.

there are prescription drugs that will like dostinex and bromo... i'm just sayin- go for the cheap, less risky stuff first! you may be surprised with the results...

google "B-6 prolactin"

[Skarhead]

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^^So...keeping nolvadex on hand will not help with this. ^^

Just the B6 will.

i know this.. But he didnt decide whether or not what he was gonna run, im sure he knew this as well, so i didnt mention it.

badasz- IMO if u're too worried about 5-7 lbs of water making you a little puffy, you shouldnt be doing gear. I dont think you should do gear to "be happy" with your body. thats just like drinking alcohol to have a good time. i think gear should be used to aid in what you can't do naturally.

Ok correct me if im wrong water retention makes you stronger? being stronger = lifting more weights which = more muscle. It's not like bloat if permanent.