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Why you dont need to "kick start" with a short ester.
Re: Why you dont need to "kick start" with a short ester.
and yes crank... i belive if you shot prop AND enanthate at AROUND (12-36 hours) the same time the TEST would peak at the same time... the half life of each doesnt determine when the test gets released it determines how ACTIVE it is in your system.... Unless im reading inccorectly>? so yes, i think kick starting is stil stupid?
Re: Why you dont need to "kick start" with a short ester.
Originally posted by Skarhead
No u misunderstood his question. hes saying you woudlnt get 500mgs a wk bc of ester weight. and u ownt.
yes thats what i was saying and thought!
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Re: Why you dont need to "kick start" with a short ester.
Originally posted by Crankin'steiN
The way your wording that is a little confusing..... But I think you're trying to say that if I take a shot of prop or a shot of enth, they will start being released in my blood time no matter what the ester is... Now while that may be correct, kickstarting has nothing to do with when the test starts to be released into your system but actually to do with the peak blood levels. Kickstarting isn't used so that the test will start going into your blood faster so that you'll have some in you, it is used to get you up to that peak blood level much faster. You want to be at the peak blood level for as long as possible during a cycle to get the most benifit possible.
ok i c what u're saying... that sounds like it would be extremely hard to figure out how to keep levels even or close to even kick starting
Re: Why you dont need to "kick start" with a short ester.
Originally posted by Skarhead
No, 375 that is working, imo.. like i said the cycle i started 7 weeks ago (both enan esters) by day 2 or 3 i already had noticable water weight.
375mg is "working" in your opinion??... Unfortunately, this is not how the half life curve works. When you inject 500mg of a compound with a 2 week half life (of the removal of the ester), In ONE week, there has been 125 mg of the whole compound used. By that I mean 125mg of the test cypionate, for example, has had the ester removed and left the remaining testosterone (without the ester) available for the body to use. So, ~65% of the 125mg is actually testosterone, that is available to the body at week 1 of a 500mg injection of a compound with 2 week half life. Opinions will not refute the exponential decay curve.
Your water weight could have been from MANY factors. I can eat a jar of pickles and gain about 5 lbs...
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