Mega dosing test (2+ grams a week)

[Equalizer]

Re: Mega dosing test (2+ grams a week)

I hope you don't really believe this stuff guys. I have NEVER heard or seen anyone who had to use 2g of test. Half the guys on these boards who mention it I think are full of it too. Don't believe everything you hear or read, and don't ever try enormous amounts of gear for experiment reasons. If I believed everything I heard on these boards then having 20inch arms would be the norm, 350lb benchpresses would be pathetic, and under 1g of test a wk would be mandatory for a third cycle. It's funny how me and everyone I know never needed more than 750mg to see great gains. I'm not calling everyone out or trying to be an asshole but some things I hear and read are just rediculous.

Not to be riding your coattails but i find that to be extremely true myself.

[Skarhead]

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man, this board seems to be real high on the receptor theory. IMO, it has nothing to do w/ receptors but how your body responds to gear. Your friends obviously responded well to gear (lucky them). Im not hear to back up BDTRs claim but like i mentioned before he's a respected Vet. im not saying its not stupid or safe either, im try ing to get some good discussin and thoughts here.

That is rediculous unless maybe you have shot receptors. Those doses are crazy imo, and BDTR uses some insane amounts of gear last I remember (but he's been in the game a while). It's funny too, I have friends back home that were enormous in their gear using days and they NEVER took 2g of test. We always thought 750-1000 was a high amount, especially when stacked with other gear. And 30lbs of muscle is hard for me to believe. And 2g for a rookie, how freaking stupid. Of course he gained 30lbs.........of water in the first week I bet.

[Skarhead]

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Bro u're not getting it!!! Just b/c you havent SEEN it doesnt mean its not out there. There are some people who are such hard gainers they have to do the tiniest amount of volume you'll ever see! I ;ll try and dig up this one routine, this one guy had, its pretty fascinating .Im sure most of the people on the board havent seen it but that doesnt mean its not out there!!!

and just bc you and ur friends grow GREAT off 750 that doesnt mean everyone else will too..

I hope you don't really believe this stuff guys. I have NEVER heard or seen anyone who had to use 2g of test. Half the guys on these boards who mention it I think are full of it too. Don't believe everything you hear or read, and don't ever try enormous amounts of gear for experiment reasons. If I believed everything I heard on these boards then having 20inch arms would be the norm, 350lb benchpresses would be pathetic, and under 1g of test a wk would be mandatory for a third cycle. It's funny how me and everyone I know never needed more than 750mg to see great gains. I'm not calling everyone out or trying to be an asshole but some things I hear and read are just rediculous.

[JsJs24]

Re: Mega dosing test (2+ grams a week)

man, this board seems to be real high on the receptor theory. IMO, it has nothing to do w/ receptors but how your body responds to gear. Your friends obviously responded well to gear (lucky them). Im not hear to back up BDTRs claim but like i mentioned before he's a respected Vet. im not saying its not stupid or safe either, im try ing to get some good discussin and thoughts here.

You are a sharp guy and I respect you for your research shark. It is just hard for me to buy this concept even if BDTR saysit's true. I personally may be lucky in that I always responded very well to gear. However, I have a lot of friends of all sizes that used gear back in the day. Some of these guys were/are freaks if you will. But I never knew any man who didn't grow huge and strong off 1g or less of real test. whatever works though for each person is what should be used, however, some believe more is always better. More is always more sides maybe, but I wouldn't say better for sure.

[Skarhead]

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You are a sharp guy and I respect you for your research shark. It is just hard for me to buy this concept even if BDTR saysit's true. I personally may be lucky in that I always responded very well to gear. However, I have a lot of friends of all sizes that used gear back in the day. Some of these guys were/are freaks if you will. But I never knew any man who didn't grow huge and strong off 1g or less of real test. whatever works though for each person is what should be used, however, some believe more is always better. More is always more sides maybe, but I wouldn't say better for sure.

Im agreeing with you!

I think BDTRs experient obviously had flaws. he didnt do it to get his ass a column in FLEX. he just threw it out there for some analyzing.

Obviously, more gear is more sides, but who knows if someone can't handle it or not you won't know w/o blood work. I havent gone over 500mg test yet and I seem to be growing just fine. Im just throwing out the idea out there of who goes higher and who responds well to it... that is all!

[JsJs24]

Re: Mega dosing test (2+ grams a week)

Bro u're not getting it!!! Just b/c you havent SEEN it doesnt mean its not out there. There are some people who are such hard gainers they have to do the tiniest amount of volume you'll ever see! I ;ll try and dig up this one routine, this one guy had, its pretty fascinating .Im sure most of the people on the board havent seen it but that doesnt mean its not out there!!!

and just bc you and ur friends grow GREAT off 750 that doesnt mean everyone else will too..

I get it bro. But how many people do you think actually need to take those amounts. This post was started by mentioning a "study" that showed 2g of test yielded such results. This was for a rookie user too, who had NO IDEA whatsoever how much test he needed. I am merely saying that it is not necessary for people to try this. Maybe 1 person in million or something crazy is possible, but not many I wouldn't think. When I say I have not known anyone to need over a gram, that is coming from years of lifting around guys who used gear openly around me. I am just more cautous and realistic than most I believe.

[ssgeek]

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This is a good, healthy debate....RIGHT????

[Skarhead]

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IMO, its good, everyone seems to be keeping an open mind on both sides of the plate. I think people thought by me posting the study and IA's gear use truism that i was about to order 50 grams of test and start doing 5 grams a week, which isnt true at all. i grow fine off low dosages. im just trying to spark debate and see if anyone else mega doses test and grows well of it...

[JsJs24]

Re: Mega dosing test (2+ grams a week)

IMO, its good, everyone seems to be keeping an open mind on both sides of the plate. I think people thought by me posting the study and IA's gear use truism that i was about to order 50 grams of test and start doing 5 grams a week, which isnt true at all. i grow fine off low dosages. im just trying to spark debate and see if anyone else mega doses test and grows well of it...

I think all of us would grow well off of it, but the sides would be unsafe. My bloodpressure would be thru the roof for sure.

[ssgeek]

Re: Mega dosing test (2+ grams a week)

IMO, its good, everyone seems to be keeping an open mind on both sides of the plate. I think people thought by me posting the study and IA's gear use truism that i was about to order 50 grams of test and start doing 5 grams a week, which isnt true at all. i grow fine off low dosages. im just trying to spark debate and see if anyone else mega doses test and grows well of it...

That's my point - I don't wanna ever think about using that much Test, but, it is an interesting concept, nevertheless. There are many problems whose answers were found only by crossing that line into "too much", and coming back again.

[Skarhead]

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I think all of us would grow well off of it, but the sides would be unsafe. My bloodpressure would be thru the roof for sure.

my B/P is usually A-OK on gear. it was 135/70 on A-Bombs last cycle... Not greatly affected at all. I guess we wont know how much sides unless we got bloodwork done

[Sven]

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Just to add real quick, then Im off to bed, and will continue this tommorrow....

It def. takes diff. people diff. amounts of gear to see the same results others will at lower doses.

I didnt get the gains like most other people did, my personal friends not my internet bros, until I hit 750mgs/week of test. I started at 250/week and worked my way up. I am now at a gram and FINALLY got stretch marks. BTW, my diet and training have been spot on since day 1.

more gear does = more gains, but also = more sides.....or does it....normally yes, but. At a gram I got the same sides as 750mgs/week, but far better gains. Actually, I got the most sides on 100mgs eod prop. and had minimal gains....... just more to think about...

[Sven]

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on the blood work topic, I get mine done often, my doc knows what I do, my BP is fine, my lipids are fine....cholesterol is off a bit but he says no worries, and my liver is fine.......... OK nite guys

[Fit2bLarge]

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great discussion gents.

[HungarianBeast]

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Skar, I do not respond as well as others using AAS. BUT, I have never had to go above 1g of test (on a test only cycle). I respond much better to stacks. This enables me to keep the test dosage down. However, when you add the stack amounts up, I am still using over 1g of compounds a week.
I don't think the "body's response" to AAS is easily explained. There are quite a few factors involved. It probably involves receptor response as well. 2g of test is just stupid even when taking into consideration that "everyone is different."