OK! At long last... my cycle.

[Skarhead]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

imo 500MG of test isnt that light.. im a believer in light dosages....500mg is still around 5x the normal amount of what you would have normaly as test (i think at least).. the only thing i agree with youu on is his goal. he wants to bulk and cut all at the same time which i dont think is goign to happen. maybe a loss of 5-8 lbs and maybe a gain of 5-8 lbs of muscle is doable? who knows!

[HungarianBeast]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

It would be like going from his current 215 17% to 220 12%. It does not sound too off base to me.

[FUZO]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

KICK THE DECA UP TO 400MG RUN IT ATLEAST 12 WEEKS ADD A FEW MORE WEEKS OF TEST. USE THE NOLVA ED

[Skarhead]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

i just dont how hes going to bulk and cut at the same time ... hes going to have to eat to grow, but lose weight at the same time? gear makes me shed bf even when bulking but i sure as hell dont lose 10 lbs and gain 20 lbs of msucle! i applaud the genetic freaks who can though

[Sven]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

KICK THE DECA UP TO 400MG RUN IT ATLEAST 12 WEEKS ADD A FEW MORE WEEKS OF TEST. USE THE NOLVA ED

I'm going to agree and disagree with you Fuzo......

Yes run deca at 400mgs/week that is the appropriate dose.
BUT,

with your BF in that range, I would NOT run deca, even with a clean diet, which is key, deca is not the appropriate compund . Tren is what you need. If at a higher BF, deca can make you look ugly.

Yes, nutrition is key, but give yourself a better shot at your goals and use tren.

[superdog]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

Looks good. How were you able to get all you need in your location?

The rules just changed in Japan. Got a friendly doc who let me design my own cycle. Now, It should be easier to do this here legaly than it is in the states.

The doc's clinic will even provide financing and I pay monthly.

[superdog]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

i just dont how hes going to bulk and cut at the same time ... hes going to have to eat to grow, but lose weight at the same time? gear makes me shed bf even when bulking but i sure as hell dont lose 10 lbs and gain 20 lbs of msucle! i applaud the genetic freaks who can though

You are correct, it is a difficult goal BUT...
I play professional sports (lot's of coached cardio)
so loosing the fat isn't so hard AND...
I'm really sensitive to Test so 20lbs in 14-16 weeks isn't so tough.

[superdog]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

Looks good to me..but i have a ? for u...are u taking gh by itself at teh end???? i hope not.....

Here's the deal.
I can't afford the GH now but I've got to formluate a plan for switching cycles and maintaing the gains come August when the cycle is over.

I mentioned before that I play sports and the cycle is for the spring season but the fall season will start in september so I'm screwed unless I switch to somthing else... like GH.

Recommendation?

[HungarianBeast]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

The rules just changed in Japan. Got a friendly doc who let me design my own cycle. Now, It should be easier to do this here legaly than it is in the states.

The doc's clinic will even provide financing and I pay monthly.

GET THE F*$K OUT OF TOWN!! Damn, that is great SD. Do you have a spare bedroom you want to rent out??

[HungarianBeast]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

Here's the deal.
I can't afford the GH now but I've got to formluate a plan for switching cycles and maintaing the gains come August when the cycle is over.

I mentioned before that I play sports and the cycle is for the spring season but the fall season will start in september so I'm screwed unless I switch to somthing else... like GH.

Recommendation?

Can you mention what sport? It may help with suggestions.

[SMILEY FACE]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

PS: drop the Nolva unless you start getting symptoms of gyno. If you do start to get gyno, take 25mg/day until symptoms are gone.

i agree...it will minimize ur gains big time... i use nolv unless if i feel teh symptoms, otherwise, i won't use it......


HB: as far for acnes, i have no idea about that...

[SMILEY FACE]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

KICK THE DECA UP TO 400MG

i disagree wt u on teh deca.....with his goals, deca gonna make him retain water...

p.s u need to choose either bulk up or diet down

[HungarianBeast]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

He'll lose the water within a couple of weeks when the cycle is over. I don't know why people get all worried about water gain.

[Skarhead]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

He'll lose the water within a couple of weeks when the cycle is over. I don't know why people get all worried about water gain.

thats one thing i can agree 100% on you with.. Water gain is NOT that big of a deal it goes away not permanent!

[SMILEY FACE]

Re: OK! At long last... my cycle.

He'll lose the water within a couple of weeks when the cycle is over. I don't know why people get all worried about water gain.

i hope u know wt the water gain , u gain a little bit of fat, and that is normal..