ORATROPIN REAL RESULTS.

[Stout1]

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*NOTE: We don't allow people to go around posting that sources are scammers without cold hard facts to back it up.... So why should we let people call research companies scammers without cold hard facts to back it up.*

THANK YOU

[Stout1]

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First we would like to thank everyone that has been so supportive of our latest product development involving the first ever orally active form of IGF on the market. We have gotten countless PMs and emails about this product and everyone seems to have as much anticipation for its release as we do. We have several product and company updates to discuss with members, but the most exciting is our release of sample/prototype pictures of this ground breaking product...........orally active/absorbed IGF-1 Long R3. We feel that this will better allow for you to visualize what we are trying to describe when we say oral syringes and kits.

One of the first topics we would like to discuss involves the nature of how this products works. Many people have come to us with questions about how this product can be in oral form yet still release into the bloodstream without being destroyed in the digestive process and although IBE has wanted to be as upfront as possible from our earliest stages of discussing this product release, many have been very respectful of our wishes not to disclose too much until a little closer to releasing the product mainstream. Well we have decided to give everyone what they have been waiting for.......the explanation.

Our unique formula, does not ever reach the digestive breakdown so many fear. Our hints and gestures have not been enough to satisfy the intellect of our outstanding community and really that is what we expected. So here it is......we use a technology, clinically proven for the safest most effective time release form of insulin currently patented for pharmaceutical purposes. Our supplement, although meant for injestion, is virtually impossible to physically swallow. Why? Because, our oral technology is absorbed in the throat via the lymphatic system. I am sure some have already heard of liposomal delivery technologies....well this is similar, but above and beyond the claims of existing supplement geared delivery system product claims. Our product is a paste-like gel that when squirted in the mouth will actually be absorbed/attached (completely) via the mucousa membranes in the throat. So much so, that it will actually make the individual feel extremely dry mouth due to non-salivation from the effect of the product binding. This is what we have tried to hint with our statements that our product will never reach the digestive system, liver or kidneys.

This related technology will be the next household name for oral diabetic therapy for insulin....why did we hold back? Just because, a good thing can only last so long and we want to keep this product open and availible to you as long as our Big Brother will allow. We will also be supplying Blood Glucose Monitoring Kits to further prove the legitimacy of our product to all individuals choosen to sample our first production. We will have these individuals test their blood glucose levels before administration and every 3rd day interval thereafter. Most people know with the mimic of insulin, IGF significantly will drop blood glucose levels when being supplemented.....we will prove this with our oral product, OraTropin-1 Long R3. No more research grade IGF supplementation; this is the first pharmaceutical grade ORAL IGF Nutritional supplement known to man. Keep an eye out for our 2 page ad promotions in Muscular Development and Flex. etc........we are going full blown with this breakthrough including scheduled appearances at Mr. Olympia 2005.

We all know that oral IGF is virtually impossible, well actually it is. We have tried to hint around many times, but not many people were satisfied with our beating around the bush. It is a known fact, peptides of this nature will always loose integrity once entering the human digestive system and many more elaborated about potentials of stomach enlargement which is common amongst most injectible forms and tried to correlate between the similarities of oral consumption and sub q injection dangers. Although, many do not talk about some of the dangers of site injection related to stomach enlargement and blood plasma level spikes, it does not mean that these issues do not exist. Many have tried to come down on our oral resolution with the current safety issues that linger with the injectible form, but we have developed the answer.

Our formula effectively adminsters doses of IGF into the bloodstream, yet has the capability of shutting off distribution when levels reach too high of a blood level content (blood plasma spikes). Several hours later, when levels have reached a safer ratio, administration will continue to restore and amplify existing blood levels of IGF. Clinical trials have already verified and further supported our claims of 24 hours consistent, sustained blood levels of IGF...........we will further support these claims with our current clinical support of 48 hour blood level replacement/enhancement. This means that even with the most trusted injectible forms, you can never completely acheive the potential of our formulation which literally allows for overlapping/double dose administration of IGF into the bloodstream. No fluctuations in levels to worry about ever again, no calculations for your next adminstration due to shortly sustained blood levels of IGF to worry about. You will only see this degree of honesty between us and the community now, after this time has come and gone we will look to be as any other supplement that has had it time in the limelight of supplement industry. We do this out of protection of our product and protect of the communities rights.

We have patent pending protection issues that have caused us to take the upmost of cautions when releasing the details of this ground-breaking supplement. Many people will want to and will try to copy our technology, but will sadly fail. We are trying to preserve the integrity of this once in a lifetime, mainstream availabilty of a supplement of this nature. I can guarantee you, it will not last forever........not by the wishes of the community, but by the forces we are all having to fight day to day to continue enjoying the lifestyle that we have grown accustomed to and love.........Anabolic Research and Growth. It is because of the similarity of structure, that we have been able to combine such available ground-breaking technology for oral delivery of insulin with our interests with IGF.
Thank you and I hope you enjoy the pics...........................

[prolangtum]

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I have no competitive intrest regarding IBE. Ill leave it alone.

[Stout1]

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Looks like the oral IGF is workign wonders for many of bros. So much for being scammers.

[Stout1]

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Thats good to hear Crank. I have yet to hear one bad report on this stuff yet!! And to think about all the people bad mouthing them to begin with, i don't see any apoligies at any of the boards yet where the negative threads where started for no apparent reason. But oh' well, what can you do?

[JohnnyB]

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IBE has been blasted at Avant Labs forum, and has yet to show any proof that the IGF-1 can make it past the gut.

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=1&t=15291&

That's cause it never makes it to the gut, it's absorbed in the mouth and throat.

I used it and it worked fine for me.

JohnnyB

[prot]

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It didn't work for me at all..maybe I'm a non responder but I got absolutely nothing from it. Wont blame IBE as their other products have been fine. Only posting this so that others know there is a risk. Many times I believe a placebo effect takes over and people "see" things that aren't there with suplements. They eat better, sleep better, and train smarter and think its the supplement.

[prot]

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Nothing at all..It is difficult to judge short term experiments but I would expect strength gains, scale gains, and/or visual gains such as increased vascularity. I had none not increased hunger.

I do appreciate IBE's other products and their packaging as they are the only company that gets their stuff through Canadian customs without problems and fees. I may just be non responsive as some are to the injectible.

On another note I would advise against using the "tanita" as a measure as the scales are notoriously unreliable for determining bodyfat. I believe they have two versions..one for "regular" people and one for athletes and the "athlete" one measures your bodyfat at less. I believe the water immersion test is the only reliable measure.

[badasz32]

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use the tanita and caliper test. aslong as u have the same person administer the test each time its more accurate. there is a 3% error of human accuracy using the test. the bod pod is very accurate but the calipers are just easier and conveinant. i like to use both to get an average. I am looking forward to seeing the post crank.

[prot]

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I took it 1 dose a day ..two hours after breakfast for 28 days..thats two kits and $260 US.

On another note I doubt the Tanita is off only three percent as my experience has been otherwise. Electrical impedance testing is affected by water volume in the body.