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    Currently, 6' 200 lbs 15% bf. Haven't cycled in 5 years, but have been lifting with high intesity for that entire time.

    Objective: Hard and lean for summer. Don't really care about putting on a ton of weight, as long as I'm hard and lean. The diet is tight. Cardio is rockin'. About to start this cycle:

    1 - 10 50mg prop/eod
    1-10 400mg EQ/wk
    1-6 40mg Var/ed
    7-10 50mg Win/ed

    Alternate:
    Clen 20, 40, 60, 80, 100, 120, 120x8 days;
    epherdrine for 2 weeks.

    PCT.

    Any last minute advice?

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    Re: Thoughts on Cycle??

    Originally posted by Curls4dGirls
    Currently, 6' 200 lbs 15% bf. Haven't cycled in 5 years, but have been lifting with high intesity for that entire time.

    Objective: Hard and lean for summer. Don't really care about putting on a ton of weight, as long as I'm hard and lean. The diet is tight. Cardio is rockin'. About to start this cycle:

    1 - 10 50mg prop/eod
    1-10 400mg EQ/wk
    1-6 40mg Var/ed
    7-10 50mg Win/ed

    Alternate:
    Clen 20, 40, 60, 80, 100, 120, 120x8 days;
    epherdrine for 2 weeks.

    PCT.

    Any last minute advice?
    Not really very good. I will ballpark a cycle for you.
    Prop is not near enough. A min of atleast 100mg/EOD=350mg/wk which is still awful low. 150mg/EOD=575mg/wk is perfect.
    EQ should be ran for atleast 12wks to be effective.Lastly 10 wks of orals is way too hard on your liver.
    Take a look at this.
    wk1-15 Prop 150 mg/EOD
    wk1-12 EQ 400mg/wk
    wk1-6 var 40mg/ED
    wk11-15 winnie 50mg/ed

    This is a solid cycle.
    1. Yes this is the test dosage you want.
    2. EQ should be 12wks min
    3. prop then has to run to wk 15 to end as the same time that the long estered EQ does
    4. running to wk 15 allows the nessacary gap in orals to protect your liver
    5. 15 wks is not overly long and the length while allow your body to acommadate new muscle set point and increased time to lower BF so nothing drastic need be done.

    With enough protein and proper diet and a solid training program you can grow AND drop BF.

    You would be verry happy with this and dosages are still low and safe.
    DJ

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    • #3
      DJ - thx for the advice. Some good nuggets of info. I'm getting some good advice from other boards as well, and I obviously have some tweaking to do.

      thx again.

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      • #4
        just up the eq and it looks good ive never ran anavr though

        dont know anyone who has

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        • #5
          Originally posted by that kolprit
          just up the eq and it looks good ive never ran anavr though

          dont know anyone who has
          I certainly hope your not talking about his originial cycle

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          • #6
            The orals for 10 weeks straight is what scares me the most.

            Listen to Double J... he's right on track here.
            RIP BigJim33 & GearedUp: You are sorely missed my friends.

            Hindsight is always 20/20. But looking back it's still a bit fuzzy.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Got Gear?
              The orals for 10 weeks straight is what scares me the most.

              Listen to Double J... he's right on track here.
              i agree..

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              • #8
                Thanks GG and olds.

                ATTENTION:If I one more person has the balls to ask me questions all day long and then come up behind my posts with conflicting advice I am GOING TO F'ING SCREAM!

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                • #9
                  Thx for the advice - despite my hours of research, I still came up short. A lot of conflicting / missing information out there

                  Question:

                  The only wrench in the plan is that I'm taking a 4 day trip to Mexico at the end of june. Then I turn around and take a 3 day domestic trip the next weekend.

                  My orginal plan was to end the cycle (10 weeks) before the mexico trip started. Now, I'll be in the middle of injecting prop eod, and, in both situations, there's not really a way to mail the gear ahead

                  Should I load up before I go with a heavy dose? Should I alter the cycle?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DOUBLE J
                    Thanks GG and olds.

                    ATTENTION:If I one more person has the balls to ask me questions all day long and then come up behind my posts with conflicting advice I am GOING TO F'ING SCREAM!
                    Don't listen to DJ, he watches soap operas all day and arranges flowers.

                    J/K lol

                    Double J hit the mark.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Curls4dGirls
                      Thx for the advice - despite my hours of research, I still came up short. A lot of conflicting / missing information out there

                      Question:

                      The only wrench in the plan is that I'm taking a 4 day trip to Mexico at the end of june. Then I turn around and take a 3 day domestic trip the next weekend.

                      My orginal plan was to end the cycle (10 weeks) before the mexico trip started. Now, I'll be in the middle of injecting prop eod, and, in both situations, there's not really a way to mail the gear ahead

                      Should I load up before I go with a heavy dose? Should I alter the cycle?
                      4 days should be ok. This happens to me too. You got to have a life outside of BB'ing

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by HungarianBeast
                        Don't listen to DJ, he watches soap operas all day and arranges flowers.

                        J/K lol

                        Double J hit the mark.


                        I need a night out.
                        Oh, and I hope I get flowers too

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