1st cycle

[Twix]

Do sust atleast twice a week and I bet you will see gains on your first cycle. You do not need tren for first cycle, its usually used when you have a few under your belt. I think sust is fine though for your first cycle. you will see gains, but I would stack it with something like dbol or deca. or both.

[Redeyez]

is cyp/enan better than sus for the 1st cycle? doesn't deca hold more water than dbol?

[jsjs24]

Originally posted by Skarn
I personally think tren is not good for a first cycle. Too many pokes, harsh on some... keep it simple.

Test Enth 500mg/week weeks 1-10
ldex .25/day

Decent gains with that basic cycle. If you really want to you can throw in some EQ. I love dbol, but you said with little water retention.

Good luck,
Skarn

Listen to this man.

[jsjs24]

And fuck the band wagon sustanon! Sorry if I offend anyone

[NeverSatisfied]

how bout test enth/eq. that was my first and i loved it

[Redeyez]

Based on some of the advice I am headed that direction...what about sust or enan and deca together? what is the difference btween equi and deca? I want to avoid too much water retention and more so,moon-face.

[NeverSatisfied]

if ur worried about water retention, go with eq over deca. the thing about sust is it is 4 different ethers that release at diff times so its not really worth it unless injected at least 3 times a week. and run some liquidex for water retention

i would go with

1-13 test enth 500 mg/week
1-12 eq 400 mg/week
l-dex

u'll be happy with the results and u won't put on that much water weight. let us know what u decide

[Redeyez]

Preciate partner....
What about running that on a 10 wk cycle?

[Redeyez]

there is no fixation on the sus, it is just one of the immediate options. Enan is another. i just was looking at the blend in sus compared to the enan and both are the same price

[Redeyez]

everyone says not to run tren in the first cycle. I will assume that you can run enan just as prop with tren and ldex. if this is the case then the next mission is for ldex....what is the chem basis of ldex. could i just run a diuretic like furosemide instead of ldex?

[jack hust]

do this bro
1-10 500 mg of eth a week
1-8 100mg tren eod
1-10 .25 mcg of ldex ed

[latimer99]

what are your stats bro: age? wt? ht?
btw.... you need to research more. all these questions can be answered through a couple hours of study...

[lxorl]

tren is the shit, but its hard to do everyday shots..... if you think your up to it though, you would probably like the results... as said above run the test longer.

10 weeks of tren is kinda long, especially for a first time.

[Skarn]

What I don't think you understand about Sust (or have been told) is that it contains prop. Prop is very fast acting and needs to be shot at least EOD so if shot only once or even twice a week, you are wasting the prop in it. So it's better to just use a longer ester like Enth or Cyp.

Again, the perfect basic cycle for you would be:

500mg/Test Enth weeks 1-10
.25 ldex/day

If you must add to it, add EQ at 400mg/week.

Shoot twice a week....like Mon and Thurs.

Skarn

[Redeyez]

Preciate you fellas lookin out for me. It sounds like the overwhelming opinion is:
enan or prop at 400-500mg weekx10
.25ldex/day and
tren and eq optional

Latimer-- I'm 27, 6'1", 91kilos (~200lbs). About the research, I have done quite a bit but there are such varying opinions which make sense given that everyone is different. I just want to pose my personal questions and get feedback. I checked out the AS profiles page and read a lot about different AS but there was no personal opinions which is why I am asking advice.