1st cycle

[Redeyez]

What do you fellas think?

Sust 250 -- 8 weeks
Tren -- 10 weeks
nolvadex

My first cycle and I want some big gains but little H20 Retention.

[MYRICK]

ONE WORD NO. SUST A BAD IDEA FOR UR FIRST CYCLE ID GO WITH A LONG ESTER AND AS FAR AS TREN CONSIDERING UVE NEVER GIVEN URSELF A TWICE WEEKLY SHOT GOOD LUCK DOING IT ED

[MYRICK]

OH PLUS U'LL WANT TO RUN THE TEST LONGER THAN THE TREN IF UVE GOT A GIRL OR EVEN IF U DONT

[Skarn]

I personally think tren is not good for a first cycle. Too many pokes, harsh on some... keep it simple.

Test Enth 500mg/week weeks 1-10
ldex .25/day

Decent gains with that basic cycle. If you really want to you can throw in some EQ. I love dbol, but you said with little water retention.

Good luck,
Skarn

[Redeyez]

I have given myself injections b4 and have no prob with them. I understand the tren is harsh inj, what about one inject. a week of the tren and one of the sus? and run both for the 10 weeks?

Why is sus bad for a 1st cycle?

[MYRICK]

BRO U CANT SHOOT TREN ONCE A WEEK U NEED TO DO IT AT THE MININMUM OF EVERY OTHER DAY. SUS ISNT GOOD BEACUSE OF THE DIFFERENT ESTERS IT HAS U FLUCTUATING. WHAT KIND OF INJECTS HAVE U GIVEN URSELF BECAUSE ITS NOT THE NEEDLE PAIN THATS GOING TO GET U BRO

[Redeyez]

I know sus has the several different esters so the fluctuating would essentially come from the first week or two during onset when the longer esters activate.
The thought that some injects were more painful than others to get the bolus in. Once the bolus is in it can be a few days for the pain at the site to go away. Alternating sites? I ain't tryin to bust your balls bro, just want to understand.

[MYRICK]

bro ur talking about a few days from every shot not just the first few just want u to know what ur getting urself into. and ur coming off with all this info like ur in the know and u may be. but for the simple fact that u mentioned just shooting tren once a week means ur not ready for tren.

[MYRICK]

colorao shhh im tryin to scare him

[Redeyez]

I want to know what I am gettin into as well, thats why I ask. What i am gettin at is, is the inj of tren bad? site painful for days? what? if you are saying that i run tren eod (at least), then I am running out of sites before the end of the week when I need to run another test shot. is this right?

[Redeyez]

come on colorao, what other advice do you have

[MYRICK]

NO BRO U DO THE SUST ATLEAT EOD TO. THESE ARENT WEEKLY THINGS HERE

[FUZO]

KEEP IT SIMPLE. DO THE BASIC. TEST DECA D-BALL

[Redeyez]

sus eod? I was gonna do the 1ml inject onceevery 5days. would you divide the 1ml up for eod or the whole 1ml eod?

[MYRICK]

THE WHOLE EOD U SHOULD REALLY LOOK INTO MAYBE TEST CYP OR ENATH AND GET ALOT MORE INFO B4 U START UR CYCLE