this is for all the teens on this board

[Madmax]

Originally posted by Josh
I wasnt saying it could be 100% safe but im saying that with knowledge you can make juicing as safe as it can be, and if you withhold that knowledge from teens that will do it anyway they will just fuck themselfs.

And i dont see why this poem is shot at teens when all the sides you listed could happed to anyone, any age. And i have to disagree with about strechmarks being easier to get if your a teen but i wont mix issues.

and you said - "its not a scare tactic its a light humored way of explaining the effects steroids have on an endocrine system that isnt fully developed yet...."

1. This shits not funny - is hairloss gyno, or shrunken nuts funny to you? So im not quite sure how you get light humored..
2. Once again these things could happen to anyone..

So your basically taking information we all have that you know to be true and twisting it to say what you want it to say. (just like the media does). Then you direct it only at teens, its a scare tactic.

-J

you need to chill out, most of all the people who read this post agree with me, its obvious all the mods do to, so if your gonna bust my balls then you gotta bust all the other mods to...

ive been on these boards for along time and seen hundreds of teen posts that ask why are my nuts shrinking? and why is my hair thinning...

so yes all of these symptoms can happen to adults, but if you start at an early age then you are more likely to get these problems in the long run....

if i said i didnt mean it as a scare tactic then i obviously didnt...and dont compare me to the fucking media.....teens dont need to juice. PERIOD!......Madmax

[bdtr]

Big bump for mad max, im with you. Chill out josh.

[bdtr]

Oh and this is coming from someone who has used since he was 16... and mad max is dead on. Ask why my test levels were shot so far beyond low that they thought i'd be on HRT the rest of my life from using so young. Ask why i got jaundice at the age of 17 from subjecting my not fully matured liver to orals ask why my dad is 6ft 7, my mom is 6 feet and im only 6 feet tall. while my younger brother is 6ft 5. I speak from experience.

Oh and max, you need your scarface avatar, your posts aren't the same without it.

[3Vandoo]

I should read it to my players

[Josh]

I think your misunderstanding me and im taking your poem the wrong way.
Teens dont need to juice, teens probaly shouldnt juice.

Teens also shouldnt drink, smoke, or do rec drugs, and they know those things. Why do they know it? Because there parents tell them, or they heard it on TV or from a teacher. Hell, they might have even watched a 60 minutes special on it, but on tv, from parents, teachers ect. its presented like it is in that poem (1 sided and not very informational.)

So what i was trying to get across is
1. teens will do it anyways
2. if you actually want them to listen to you present facts and not a poem that doesnt explain anything.

After re-reading it, yeah the poems funny for people who actually know about juice and the sides and prevenitive steps. But its not gonna stop a teen from juicing, if you want to do that write informational with facts, explanations, and personal expeiriences.

-J

[Madmax]

Originally posted by Josh

So what i was trying to get across is
1. teens will do it anyways
2. if you actually want them to listen to you present facts and not a poem that doesnt explain anything.

After re-reading it, yeah the poems funny for people who actually know about juice and the sides and prevenitive steps. But its not gonna stop a teen from juicing, if you want to do that write informational with facts, explanations, and personal expeiriences.

-J

k bro, i see what your saying but check this link out...when i posted this at anabolic review a few members said the same thing...but i did manage to get 5 members on my board that were teen to stop juicing...true some people didnt see it through my eyes, but if i keep one teen from this board from fucking himself up permantly its worth the critisicm...honestly bro, read through the responses...it may take a while but when you get done you'll see why i posted this...im not trying to tell people not to juice, im just trying to make them realize it would be better to wait until they are fully matured....Madmax

http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=40383

[AnotherUser]

I've seen just as many "adults" suffer from these same side effects as teens. It would be more effective aimed at EVERYONE, because:

1) It applies to EVERYONE, regardless of age

and

2) If you tell teens that they can't do something because they're not mature enough or not old enough, they're going to return with a big "FUCK YOU" and completely ignore your message. People need to learn that.

[obscured78]

good poem. i tried to get my hands on gear soon after high school when i was 18 or 19. now i am glad the guy never came thru for me and i ended up not starting until i was 23.

[BANNED!]

Interesting post,
I myself did not try the stuff untill I was in my mid-30's, never gave it much thought when I was younger.
I had some friends at the gym that juiced( national competitors) but I did not see the point and besides they all told me to wait untill I was older, anyways long story short, I complained to my Dr. about lethargy and mental fatigue,blha,blah,blah and he suggested I do blood test to check my levels.
As it turned out I had the levels of a 60 year old male, not to mention my tsh but let me first say before I started my HRT I was 6'3@ 175 lbs age22, worked out for 10 years and got up to 230lbs and now on hrt i feel great and very happy and stoked i waited to try the stuff...

[BIGABOY]

This is coming from a teen ( 17 years old) damn good poem and I wont juice will Iam 20

BIGABOY

[Julsdsu21]

great poem max...you sound like you have a strong background in anatomy and physiology. I agree with you completley about age and use.

[BIG N]

max i still own u !

[jipped genes]

good post bro you can tell the young guys not to do it and some of them may listen. thats all you can do.

[bigjim33]

Originally posted by Julsdsu21
anatomy and physiology

let's not mention these classes, they are kickin my ass lol and i think the poem was a good way to get people's attention because i read through a few posts tonight about 'what shoudl i take' and 'orals only'. these are obviously teens that have no clue or need to research a lot more.

[anabolic_mK]

i see where ur getting at
esp for like 14,15,16 year olds etc.

im personally waiting till 19-21 to juice