too many sets

[Lift Chief]

30 sets- holy fuck that's way way way too many.

[DB3]

There are alot of opinions here. You have to find out what works best for you. Your goal is mass. Which to me would mean pure size not asymmetry or strength. Rado said he lifted heavy all the time. That is how you get stronger. If you are wanting pure size lift heavyas possible with good form , burn fewer calories, eat more. I believe it is much harder to overtrain when you are on but you are burning alot of calories training like this.

[DiamondBling]

How long does it take u to do the 8-11 exercises??????

[maki riddington]

Re: too many sets

Originally posted by kolprit


how many sets would be elite for mass training??

*** Imo, your best bet would to periodize your volume of sets. There is no way you can go full tilt all the time with that amount of volume in your routine. Think of it as keeping your foot all the way on the gas pedal of a car. Sooner or later you're going to run out of gas.

Periodizing your sets is a way to ensure that you get the most out of your routine without burning out too quickly.

A example of a periodizing your sets would look like this:

Week 1

5 sets per large muscle group
3 for small muscle groups

Week 2

7 sets per large muscle group
5 for small muscle groups

Week 3

6 sets per large muscle group
4 for small muscle groups

Week 4

9 sets per large muscle group
6 for small muscle groups


Week 5

11 sets per large muscle group
8 for small muscle groups

Week 6

5 sets per large muscle group
3 for small muscle groups

Week 7

6 sets per large muscle group
4 for small muscle groups

Week 8

9 sets per large muscle group
6 for small muscle groups


This would be a rough 8 week sample of what you could do. Don't be fooled by the lack of volume, it's the quality of work that counts not the quantity.

[3Vandoo]

I just tried something to end my workout tonight

while doing legs I introduced a super setting with german volume

IM DEAD!!!!!!!!!! but shit that was fun

[Lift Chief]

I've been doing 1-2 sets to failure per MUSCLE for the past 6 months and in 3 years of hard training i have never experienced these types of gains.

Everyone is different but IMHO at least 2/3rds of people are overtraining in varying degrees.

[BadMan]

Evreybody's bodoies different, you have to find what works for u. I've heard of people doing as many as 100 reps per bodypart and have had great results (some poeple argued that that was too many and he was overtraining, but it worked for him. For the most part everyone seems to agree on 4 exercises per body part with reps ranging from 6-12 (not stopping when u hit a certain amount of reps, this should be done til failure, so find a weight that you can do 6-12 reps and perform the exercise til failure). I typically do about 60 reps per body part and that seems to work for me. Also u need to constantly be shoucking your muscles, so u should constantly be changing up your exercises set up routines for each body part and rotate them weekly biweekly or monthly, I beleive this has worked the best for me, when I change it up (especially when you perform the exercise to failure) you feel a massive pump as compared to performing the same exercises your body and muscles get used to. Take from this what u like but, remember everybodies body is different find what works for u. Good luck bro!

[double_pythons]

Hell, I know a guy who NEVER does a set to failure and he has an awesome body. He told me he thinks thats when most injuries happen, trying to push out that extra rep.