too many sets

[kolprit]

how many sets would be elite for mass training??

i do between 8-11 excercises per b part with 3-4 stes on each


my strenght is fine but my weight has not changed for shit my diet is protien 4-500 aday
cals 4000-5000
carbs500-600

wy the fuck cant i gain weight??
it must be my workout

[rado]

for mass I do(I'm always massing though) no more than 4 sets at 8-6-4-2 reps and start everything at 75-80% of my max. say for example when I bench, I warm up(of course), I do 275lbs in that order, no more weight, no less. I stay the same all the way...That's just me though, some will tell you different. This is what works best for me and I like to work out heavy all the time. This is why I'm stronger than most guys I know that are much bigger than me. This thread would be better in the training forum though

[DiamondBling]

Chest, Back and Legs I'll do at least 16 sets
Arms at least 12 sets.

[kolprit]

so like 30 or so is too much

for each body part

[DiamondBling]

30

U remind me of a guy at my gym who does like 30 sets also, spends about 5 hours in the gym LOL

[kolprit]

dbling

is this too much is my question buddy

will it hinder my growth???????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????

[Captain Dbol]

Ummmmm.............yes, you might be overtrainning. I would only do 16, maybe 20 but anymore is overkill. 12 to 16 for small parts. Just remember to rest enough, eat like a horse, and drink alot of water. Grow like a weed brother!

Captain

[bowbow]

I would say you are simply over training.

[AnotherUser]

WOW!! I'd say you're definately overtraining! How long do you spend in the gym? 2+ hours? I try and keep it to 14-20 total sets for a muscle. 1:00 to 1:20 minutes in the gym

[stonecold54]

if you are training hard 30 sets should be impossible. I do about 2 sets of leg press for my quads and I can't even walk. my leg workout takes about 20 minutes. intensity is the answer not volume.

[double_pythons]

For sure too many sets...if you can still lift productively after around 12-16 sets you might want to give your weight and intensity a check

[kolprit]

thanks guys i am stacking dbols and 1200 mg test btw

[slowtwitch]

1200mg of Test? Anbody who has any excuse to take that much test should know their body well enough to know how many sets to do... Yikes...

That said, the older I get - fewer sets at higher intensity with more rest between sessions works best for pure strength and size.

Keep it simple.

[DiamondBling]

Dude, at 30 sets a workout u are burning alot of Cals, which means u are not setting the enviroment for growth.........
Because I am ur typical hard gainer/ectomorph I keep my workouts max hour and half at the # of sets I stated. I get good growth, but I'm not runnin a circuit or cardio session, as 30 sets would probably entail.

[AceDaBoss]

Try Super setting everhting for a change of pace and to spend less time in the Gym.


Example Shoulders

Presses 6 reps to failure 225
Presses 6 reps to failure 185
Presses 6 reps to failure 135

lateral raises 6-8 reps to failure 40 lb dumbells
lateral raises 6-8 reps to failure 20 lb dumbells


* No rest between the following 5 sets

** Repeat 3-4 times. Very exhausting but a great change of pace.

I wouldn't do any cardio if you are doing this kind of workout and also not keep it going for more then 4 weeks.