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    I went to my doctor today and got back my blood test results. My liver enzymes are 5 times normal for a 29 yr old male. Is this way too high or should a little milk thistle take care of everything?

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    Re: Elevated Liver Enzymes?

    Originally posted by DerCribben
    I went to my doctor today and got back my blood test results. My liver enzymes are 5 times normal for a 29 yr old male. Is this way too high or should a little milk thistle take care of everything?
    That's pretty far up there. What are you taking? When I use fina or winny, mine go through the roof...
    The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.

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    • #3
      what was your last levels compared to now(give numbers)

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      • #4
        Dude that's bad. When I was on 50mg/day of dbol for 5 weeks, at the end while still ON in, mine were only 20pts above normal. They were in the 60's and normal was 40's, nothing to even think about, and my GGT was stone cold normal. What and when was your last cycle, and did you drink the night before or anything, take tylenol, etc?

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        • #5
          Right now I'm taking 75+ mg's of Fina ed and 100mg Winny ed, I've also had walking pneumonia for the last week so I'm sure that's part of it too. I plan to pick up some Milk Thistle tonight.

          My question is will Milk Thistle be enough and if not could someone PM me with a source for a liver cleaning agent with some more kick? (not looking for gear so if this still violates a rule please disregard, and if your not a mod or list veteran please don't pm me with any sources for anything)

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          • #6
            www.afstore.com get some of the ALA-R soon. Most people say milk thistle is a waste.
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            • #7
              tylers liver detox would be a good idea. forget milk thistle. drop the winny and fina till your liver values return to normal. a few extra lbs is not worth risking your health bro. keep the test/anti-e going to prevent muscle loss and drop the other stuff. rest.
              The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.

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              • #8
                I agree, you need to get off the AAS until your values normalize. You don't want to be the most muscular guy in the liver transplant clinic.

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                • #9
                  Do you think I could handle two more weeks with R-ALA, Milk Thistle and lots and lots of water or is this pushing it too far?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DerCribben
                    Do you think I could handle two more weeks with R-ALA, Milk Thistle and lots and lots of water or is this pushing it too far?
                    Bump for an answer to whether this would be pushing it?

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                    • #11
                      IMHO, NO.

                      You only have ONE liver. And like most things all is fine till that final thin thread snaps, and the difficulty with this situation is you have no idea when the last straw is, so you are taking a big big gamble IMHO.

                      Anyways, what did the doctor say?

                      Good Luck

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                      • #12
                        I'll post my actual liver enzyme point values as soon as I can get them on the phone and you guys can tell me what you think. He said he's seen way worse and suggested milk thistle so I don't think my values were actually the average multiplied times five but as I said I'll post for sure in an hour or so.

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                        • #13
                          Dercribben,

                          If the doc said, "milk thistle, seen worse," your probably higher than normal, thus the milk thistle, but not bad.

                          If you were bad, your doctor would be questioning you to the nine's, suggesting more tests to verify, etc.

                          Do the thistle, and r-la, maybe some saw palmetto, extra vitamin C.

                          good luck

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                          • #14
                            Alright, my AST was 108 and my ALT was 187 . anybody who knows post opinions please.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DerCribben
                              Alright, my AST was 108 and my ALT was 187 . anybody who knows post opinions please.
                              Bump for info

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