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Yep, its all a choice we make, if they want to stay natural thats GREAT, if someone wants to drink 6 beers a day thats FINE, its thier choice.
If someone is doing crack and pregnant then they are affecting someone else also, but in this case we stick a needle in our ass by choice and big fuckin whupdee.
Originally posted by Mudge Yep, its all a choice we make, if they want to stay natural thats GREAT, if someone wants to drink 6 beers a day thats FINE, its thier choice.
If someone is doing crack and pregnant then they are affecting someone else also, but in this case we stick a needle in our ass by choice and big fuckin whupdee.
you know what is great, i have buddies who smoke, drink and do coke almost every weekend... then they have the balls to tell me that jucing is "so bad for you man" ... such frusteration is caused by them
Originally posted by iamcdn disadv.
getting frusterated with pace of future gains
If anything dude, your going to gain faster on the juice and you will probably stick with it more so than someone who after 2 years is still IN THE DARK and doesn't know what they are doing. Or, even if they know what they are doing most of us will not gain all that much past the first 6 months or so. On a good 3 month bulk or so you may have of 10 pounds gain or so, after time goes on 20 pounds a year is considered godlike, "we" are doing it in 6-10 weeks.
Originally posted by iamcdn you know what is great, i have buddies who smoke, drink and do coke almost every weekend... then they have the balls to tell me that jucing is "so bad for you man" ... such frusteration is caused by them
And moreover why do they say its bad for you, likely they dont know dick about it. Here is a rant of mine on the subject:
hmmm if u dont know how to lift and eat and arent used to the liftstyle( which can only be achieved by time). Then yes doin AS is dumb and stupid IMO and i think the person who doest wana work his ass off in the gym and just grow w / drugs is a cheater...
Originally posted by Mudge If anything dude, your going to gain faster on the juice and you will probably stick with it more so than someone who after 2 years is still IN THE DARK and doesn't know what they are doing. Or, even if they know what they are doing most of us will not gain all that much past the first 6 months or so. On a good 3 month bulk or so you may have of 10 pounds gain or so, after time goes on 20 pounds a year is considered godlike, "we" are doing it in 6-10 weeks.
yah, 20 pounds of lean muscle is a great thing, and doing it in 6-10weeks is even better ... a def. adv.
Originally posted by BullFX hmmm if u dont know how to lift and eat and arent used to the liftstyle( which can only be achieved by time). Then yes doin AS is dumb and stupid IMO and i think the person who doest wana work his ass off in the gym and just grow w / drugs is a cheater...
True, you will hear of plenty who want the quick fix. Often these are the people who are:
1) In college
2) Fear needles (hey, my first inject took me 30 min!)
3) Want to drink Jim Beam with thier "DBal" (DBol...)
Then they ask is 100g of protein per day enough...
Originally posted by Mudge I think, without a doubt, such a statement is absolute bullshit. It would take years of hard work and diet know how to max yourself out, and not hardly a soul has that determination, nor are many people going to wait till they are 40 to say "ok, its time now."
If you think 6 foot and 200 pounds is genetically maxed out your sadly wrong, if someone started out 6 foot and 114 that may be different.
People who actually say they waited till they were maxed out, waited till progress slowed down dramatically and they didn't know what to do about it.
I'm 42 will be 43 in may..my first cycle was in sept....I have been training most of my life..I played college football...At 18 I was 6' 210 (playing weight of an under sized fullback)... my b/f then was probably 18-20%...my waist size then was 36...before I started my cycle in sept..I was 205 with a 32 waist bf...My body has changed very much over the years for the better...granted I was not always bulking and sometimes opted for not lifting at all ie running, biking and even went thru a period where dope and beer took control...One thing is for sure my body STOPPED getting more muscles...I'm in the middle of cycle #2 and I weigh 230 waist 33...I am very lucky to have waited till now...I'm building on an already swole and ripped old man's body and THE BEST IS YET TO COME...to each his own..but I am glad I started at 42 not 22..I hope to post some pics... and I'm going to enter a show this summer
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