ok, I let this thread run and looks like alot of views are present here , I thank you all.......I have come to terms for now. I am presently trying other means and yes it includes pHs. They are legal for now so I won't jeopardize my marriage and deny my little girl (my most precious possession!) of having both parents at home...."for now that is" I realize alot of people say pHs have alot of sides , they even say worse than AAS . But either way , with phs or aas , you have to watch your ass!!! and know your sh@t don't you ? And yes I have had very good results with 4 androstenediol supplements. I am maintaining a weight of 240 lbs and increasing my bench everyday. AAS was awesome when I used it. I even miss the ass hurting (lol) but I would rather go legal for now then worry about another ass hurt , if you all know what I am saying lmfao..
I wasn't trying to start a pissing contest here, I just missed talking on the boards and trusted some fellow bros to come up with ideas for me to run through my head to solve my problems.......and as for other supplements coming out (namely Dynabolics) I have learned with time, that to try out a new supplement , then bad mouth it is fine . But to not even have tried it and say it is bunk well , that just don't make sense to me.....I have tried gear..and luv it...I have tried prohormones and have had good results and I am currently trying Dynabolics and it is too soon to tell (only about 20 days on ) so I don't know yet but I am losing body fat and maintaining my wt .....so who knows...I have pissed alot more $$$ down the toilet then $79 in mail order gear ...I have also taken kyno and gotten good results and used site oils on my arms ( hurts like a ***** lol) so I have been around .... I have tried alot of stuff and like a bro has said in this post ...growth doesn't only rely on the supplementation, you have to have a good workout and diet not to mention plenty of rest. So if something is not workiing for you , I would ask myself if I did my absolute "best" to accomplish what I set my sites on before badmouthing the methods......thanx goes out to all the bros that provided constructive info in this thread and God bless you all ....Hope your holiday season went well for you......I will be around......


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