First time blast and cruise

[pgcc0313]

Re: First time blast and cruise

Looking for some info guys.. Hoping to start my first cycle within the next month looking at
Week 1-12
500mg test e
Then lowering the dose down to 125mg test e and HCG 250ui... Just looking to know how long should I be cruising for and then after that should I be adding something like tren into my next blast.
Thanks in advance

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I would not make the decision to just stay on before your first cycle and before your first contest. It really doesn't make much sense unless you are a very good competitor and you really want to see how far you are able to take it.
The problem is no amount of steroids or any other drug can make you a top competitor. You need to first react to steroids better than the average person. You've never used them so you have no idea yet. Also, unless you have a certain type of structure you'll never be competing and doing well in even a small national level contest. It's not anyone's fault and you can't do anything about it. It's kind of like wanting to play division 1 basketball in college. You need to be born with that talent and use it. If you don't have the talent it doesn't matter how much you practice you are not playing at a division 1 school.
I would suggest to slow down, do the first run, see how you do. If you have already been training awhile then you should enter a small local contest. If you do have the potential needed you should easily do very, very well in a contest that small. You would also have the opportunity to ask the judges what they thought. From my experience they will tell you the truth even if it sucks to hear.
Basically I'm saying make sure its even possible for you to compete at a high level before deciding to stay on steroids for good. It's a big decision at 27, and having children has 0 to do with it. If you don't come off you will have to stay on something the rest of your life. Is it worth it if you just won't be able to be a great Bodybuilder. Because you do not need to stay on for good to build an impressive physique.

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[guns01]

Re: First time blast and cruise

Thanks for all the info guys it's much appreciated.. I'm now 11 days in to my blast. I went with 500mg test e and I'm just going to keep an eye out for gyno symptoms and then add in adex if needed. I'll keep this posted updated in a few weeks after the effects kick in.
Thanks
Matryx

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dont watch for symptoms go get your estro checked after about 3-4 weeks. that will give you an idea of if you need to put estro control in. dex is harsh as all hell and will crush your estro which is counter productive. if you estro doesnt climb up to much you are better off with nolva to combat gyno. i have a guy that i work with that has serious estro issues where they spike really high even on low dose test and .5mg of dex e3d crushes his down to single digits. that in itself causes a host of other issues. so we are playing around with aroma to correct the problem now. all done with blood work every few weeks to iron out whats working and whats not. simple estro test is cheap as all hell and worth it to keep your progress moving in the right direction. esp when blasting because it's hard to push yourself when your dick dont work and your joints are bone dry

[dokkanmatryx91]

Re: First time blast and cruise

Thanks for all the info guys it's much appreciated.. I'm now 11 days in to my blast. I went with 500mg test e and I'm just going to keep an eye out for gyno symptoms and then add in adex if needed. I'll keep this posted updated in a few weeks after the effects kick in.
Thanks
Matryx

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[jolter604]

Re: First time blast and cruise

I'm 27 i have 2 kids and don't want anymore kids.. I'm looking to enter my first competition when I'm 30 that's kind of why I was leaning towards blast and cruise as opposed to a normal cycle. This will be my first cycle of any kind and as for bloods I will be getting my bloods done before starting my cycle and then during

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125 for 8 to 10 weeks is what i keep hearing is a good in between cycle time.

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[Jin&Juice]

Re: First time blast and cruise

i dont agree with adding in dex without having bloods done to see if you have estro rise to the point that it is needed. for starters it absolutely wrecks havoc on your lipids and 2 it crushes estro and we need estro to grow. so crushing it when not needed is a dbl edge sword in that it slows progress and fucks up lipids. the hcg is a good addition as well though. that is if he wants to have kids in the future

Fair enough. I was suggesting adex down the road on future blasts with more compounds added in. I do agree that blood results are the determining factor for most things in this game.

JJ

[slamshaft]

Re: First time blast and cruise

Great advice on here as usual. Making notes!

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[guns01]

Re: First time blast and cruise

This is great advice. Try and get the most out of your fist cycle with as little as possible. 400mg of cyp per week, then add eq...then tren and maybe a-bombs or d-ball for future blasts... that should get you exactly where you need to be... That is about a year or so worth. I would add in the adex to keep water and est down...perhaps HCG if you want to keep the boys at full size/strength as well.

i dont agree with adding in dex without having bloods done to see if you have estro rise to the point that it is needed. for starters it absolutely wrecks havoc on your lipids and 2 it crushes estro and we need estro to grow. so crushing it when not needed is a dbl edge sword in that it slows progress and fucks up lipids. the hcg is a good addition as well though. that is if he wants to have kids in the future

[Jin&Juice]

Re: First time blast and cruise

test only and i would drop it to 400 then. we want to make the most out of the least possible. that's the best route to go and then you start adding things in as the progress slows over time. first blast that's all you will need man. trust me. pick up some aromasin also if you can to have on standby since you dont know how your estro will respond. it's a just in caser but most likely you wont need it. better safe than sorry though

This is great advice. Try and get the most out of your fist cycle with as little as possible. 400mg of cyp per week, then add eq...then tren and maybe a-bombs or d-ball for future blasts... that should get you exactly where you need to be... That is about a year or so worth. I would add in the adex to keep water and est down...perhaps HCG if you want to keep the boys at full size/strength as well.

[guns01]

Re: First time blast and cruise

One more thing this is my first time using gear should I be using test only on my first blast or does it matter if I add say deca or tren?

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test only and i would drop it to 400 then. we want to make the most out of the least possible. that's the best route to go and then you start adding things in as the progress slows over time. first blast that's all you will need man. trust me. pick up some aromasin also if you can to have on standby since you dont know how your estro will respond. it's a just in caser but most likely you wont need it. better safe than sorry though

[FUZO]

Re: First time blast and cruise

Test only

[dokkanmatryx91]

Re: First time blast and cruise

ok blast and cruise is an excellent idea. you dont need 3 whole years to get on stage though. dont play the i am not big enough game. you can only gain for so long before you plateau out. so keep that in mind. now for blasting and cruising. dont set a time limit on your blast or your cruise. you go off of your blood work. do bloods every 4 weeks and when you get to a point where your health markers are out of range, shut your blast down and cruise until they come back into range. then the blast kicks off again. that way you can make progress and still stay safe and healthy. you are 27 now so most likely you arent going to bounce back after blasts. not saying it isnt possible but it is unlikely haha. no way to know without bloods. i know that bloods are a pain in the ass but health panels are cheap and the most effective way to fire up and tone it back. rotate compounds during your blasts as long as you can and happy growing. something like this would be a good starter.


test of choice
npp or deca rotate at say 6-8weeks to tren until markers get skewed

cruise
test of choice at 1-150 a week until panel clears

blast
test
eq or low dose drol i would keep this for the duration

the possibilities are limitless on these bad boys. you may look into getting a good coach to over see what you are doing. not soliciting you but i do it for a marginal fee in blocks and competitions are my wheel house and i love it.

One more thing this is my first time using gear should I be using test only on my first blast or does it matter if I add say deca or tren?

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[dokkanmatryx91]

Re: First time blast and cruise

ok blast and cruise is an excellent idea. you dont need 3 whole years to get on stage though. dont play the i am not big enough game. you can only gain for so long before you plateau out. so keep that in mind. now for blasting and cruising. dont set a time limit on your blast or your cruise. you go off of your blood work. do bloods every 4 weeks and when you get to a point where your health markers are out of range, shut your blast down and cruise until they come back into range. then the blast kicks off again. that way you can make progress and still stay safe and healthy. you are 27 now so most likely you arent going to bounce back after blasts. not saying it isnt possible but it is unlikely haha. no way to know without bloods. i know that bloods are a pain in the ass but health panels are cheap and the most effective way to fire up and tone it back. rotate compounds during your blasts as long as you can and happy growing. something like this would be a good starter.


test of choice
npp or deca rotate at say 6-8weeks to tren until markers get skewed

cruise
test of choice at 1-150 a week until panel clears

blast
test
eq or low dose drol i would keep this for the duration

the possibilities are limitless on these bad boys. you may look into getting a good coach to over see what you are doing. not soliciting you but i do it for a marginal fee in blocks and competitions are my wheel house and i love it.

Thanks dude I appreciate it I'll keep that in mind maybe hit you up next month after blood work is done n all

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[guns01]

Re: First time blast and cruise

I'm 27 i have 2 kids and don't want anymore kids.. I'm looking to enter my first competition when I'm 30 that's kind of why I was leaning towards blast and cruise as opposed to a normal cycle. This will be my first cycle of any kind and as for bloods I will be getting my bloods done before starting my cycle and then during

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ok blast and cruise is an excellent idea. you dont need 3 whole years to get on stage though. dont play the i am not big enough game. you can only gain for so long before you plateau out. so keep that in mind. now for blasting and cruising. dont set a time limit on your blast or your cruise. you go off of your blood work. do bloods every 4 weeks and when you get to a point where your health markers are out of range, shut your blast down and cruise until they come back into range. then the blast kicks off again. that way you can make progress and still stay safe and healthy. you are 27 now so most likely you arent going to bounce back after blasts. not saying it isnt possible but it is unlikely haha. no way to know without bloods. i know that bloods are a pain in the ass but health panels are cheap and the most effective way to fire up and tone it back. rotate compounds during your blasts as long as you can and happy growing. something like this would be a good starter.


test of choice
npp or deca rotate at say 6-8weeks to tren until markers get skewed

cruise
test of choice at 1-150 a week until panel clears

blast
test
eq or low dose drol i would keep this for the duration

the possibilities are limitless on these bad boys. you may look into getting a good coach to over see what you are doing. not soliciting you but i do it for a marginal fee in blocks and competitions are my wheel house and i love it.

[dokkanmatryx91]

Re: First time blast and cruise

I'm 27 i have 2 kids and don't want anymore kids.. I'm looking to enter my first competition when I'm 30 that's kind of why I was leaning towards blast and cruise as opposed to a normal cycle. This will be my first cycle of any kind and as for bloods I will be getting my bloods done before starting my cycle and then during

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[Yohimbe]

Re: First time blast and cruise

As a general answer, since you're not actually coming off during a cruise, you could technically stay at that low dosage for as long as you wanted. Keeping the HCG in there will help keep your boys fuller and may aid with fertility if that's something you're concerned about. Lots of guys blast and cruise year round. (Although I'm not saying I recommend that) If it were me, I would treat the cruise time frame similar to coming off and keep my test dosage lower at least as long as I had it ramped up.

However, a lot of questions are going to come into play here as well. Your age, cycle history, have you had any blood work done to see where all your levels are, etc...