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  • #16
    Re: High Risk Stack

    Originally posted by guns01 View Post
    yeah man, i have went higher much higher. here is the funny thing. doing many different approaches and protocols, i have found that i feel great and have zero issues as long as i either go with low or no test at all when the tren gets above 600. another thing i have found with all compounds is they have to be ran in smaller dosing spread out daily instead of eod or e3d. smaller daily injections keep levels much more stable and keep the sides lower or not at all.
    I know man, I've done the same, tren without any test, with 0 bad sides and great results.

    You read some of these other boards and it's scary, the stupidity they spew like it's gospel. None of it from any personal experience, all from what they read about. I stopped even trying to tell them that it is possible to successfully use Tren without test. They don't listen to anything but one opinion based on, really I have no idea what.


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    • #17
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      That picture, IMO, is what every Bodybuilder should shoot for. That is Flex Wheeler in the 1993 Arnold Classic. To this day I truly believe that what he presented that day was the best physique I have ever seen.

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by pgcc0313 View Post
        I know man, I've done the same, tren without any test, with 0 bad sides and great results.

        You read some of these other boards and it's scary, the stupidity they spew like it's gospel. None of it from any personal experience, all from what they read about. I stopped even trying to tell them that it is possible to successfully use Tren without test. They don't listen to anything but one opinion based on, really I have no idea what.


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        it's the more is better mindset and more test will make the tren more effective and everyone is scared to death that their dick wont work. they fail to think that if you get something into your mind that it wont work then it wont work and what you are doing has zero to do with it. the mind is a very powerful thing. same goes for gyno, if you say itchy nips people will autmatically feel itchy nips and toss in a bunch of ai with no bloods at all. wasting and stupid across the board
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        • #19
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          It's nice to finally find somewhere that guys actually know what they are doing and will listen if they happen not to about a certain thing. This is the first board I've seen that on.
          You said something else they won't listen to, AIs can easily do more harm than good. Yet they have everyone believing you need test at a certain amount, and an AI is always absolutely necessary. There were no AIs before like 1999. So, how did anyone look so good or function at all?? Stupid


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          • #20
            Re: High Risk Stack

            Originally posted by pgcc0313 View Post
            It's nice to finally find somewhere that guys actually know what they are doing and will listen if they happen not to about a certain thing. This is the first board I've seen that on.
            You said something else they won't listen to, AIs can easily do more harm than good. Yet they have everyone believing you need test at a certain amount, and an AI is always absolutely necessary. There were no AIs before like 1999. So, how did anyone look so good or function at all?? Stupid


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            the sad fact of the matter with the ai is that it hammers your lipids damn near harder than most of the compounds we use and people just take them haphazard. the only one that doesnt is aromasin and it still crushes your estro into oblivion. we need estro to grow and we need estro for our junk to work. not to mention keeping the joints nice and lubed up and solid. no one does research and believes everything they hear and see. then again most dont even bother checking with blood work to see if what they are doing is working. or if their health markers are in check or at least close to it.

            on a side note that's the best way to dictate when to start and stop a cycle. when your blood markers are good to go, then you put your foot on the gas, when they get skewed then it's time to back it down and cruise until you are good to go for a little while. dont see that anywhere at all
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            • #21
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              I think it's frowned upon suggesting my AS abuse!
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              • #22
                Re: High Risk Stack

                Originally posted by pgcc0313 View Post
                I always said that and some of these guys on other boards will only believe one thing, that you "NEED TEST AT A CETAIN AMOUNT NO MATTER WHAT ". Just because it is what they have been told by these, I'm sorry, jerk offs with 0 personal experience and who go by, strictly, what they read about.
                Ive also used tren without test with no bad effects and great results.

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                absolutely. my first 3-4 cycles when i was broke AF and could only afford winny tabs to run with homemade tren were amazing and the quality of gains was very nice. more experienced than those first cycles some 19 years ago and i have to say running summer cycles of tren,prop and var or winny i have felt pretty lousy physically day to day unlike the cycles without test. think the cutter this year i will cut out the prop about the time i add in the tren.
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