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    anyone have good protocol for this

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    more a fan of dyazide since it is potassium sparing. lasix is brutal hard on you and pulls everything out while drying you out. can be very dangerous. if you have to use it, i would go as low as possible and keep pushing electrolytes in because it is going to flush them as soon as you put them in
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    • #3
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      like guns said, lasix is rough. electrolytes will go nuts on this. the dr gave me hydrochlorothiazide along with lisinopril for bp and that shyt is a powerful enough diuretic to have me pissing like a racehorse all day. if you're not in a position to be competing for a MR O type contest i wouldn't screw around with anything like lasix.
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      • #4
        Re: Lasix

        Originally posted by BigDawg View Post
        like guns said, lasix is rough. electrolytes will go nuts on this. the dr gave me hydrochlorothiazide along with lisinopril for bp and that shyt is a powerful enough diuretic to have me pissing like a racehorse all day. if you're not in a position to be competing for a MR O type contest i wouldn't screw around with anything like lasix.
        i am pretty sure that hydrocholorothiazide is dyazide bigdawg. even though none of them are completely safe it is one of the safest. that along with aladoctone
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        • #5
          Re: Lasix

          Originally posted by OlympiaSolutions View Post
          anyone have good protocol for this

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          I assume you're talking about competing the last week before the show. I would start out with aldactone 10 days out 25 mg Maybe. That would be increased 2 about 50 mg at about the 7-Day out Mark. What you don't want to do is take too many diuretics and not drink any water it will flatten you out like crazy. That's the biggest mistake people make. You should be drinking tons of water the entire time you're on any kind of diuretic like this. The last maybe day before the show I would switch to something like dyazide twice a day. Again always drinking. That should be enough. Lasix is a drug I always kept in reserve in case the day of the contest I hadn't gotten rid of enough water. It's a great drug for getting rid of that last bit of water very quickly. But I would never use it as my main diuretic. And again with Lasix you cannot stop drinking.

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          • #6
            Re: Lasix

            Originally posted by guns01 View Post
            i am pretty sure that hydrocholorothiazide is dyazide bigdawg. even though none of them are completely safe it is one of the safest. that along with aladoctone
            Yes he's right. Dyazide is hydrochlorothiazide mixed with another drug another diuretic. Just like aldactazide is aldactone mixed with hydrochlorothiazide. The Hydrochlorothiazide makes a humongous difference it makes the diuretic so much stronger. So, say you were taking aldactone the whole week and you switch to a Dr I'd for the last day it will definitely help you drop more water but you have to continually drink To Stay full looking. Otherwise, if you take a drug like out that reside and cut your water you will look so flat by that Saturday morning you won't even believe it. Lasix is not a drug that's needed it really isn't. I look at it as a drug for an emergency like if at the last minute the day of the contest you're holding water and you need to get rid of it quickly. But, if you do everything right up to that point you should not be in that position.

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            • #7
              Re: Lasix

              ok protocol for dyazide....ive never used any diuretics before....just want to make sure im doing it right in case i do...i didnt have time to experiment on myself

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              • #8
                Re: Lasix

                Originally posted by OlympiaSolutions View Post
                anyone have good protocol for this

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                Yes all you need is 1 37.5/25 Thursday night and one Friday night if prejudgibg is Sat morning. But, do not eliminate water intake at any point. I wouldn't go lower than 6oz per hour. Hydrochlorithiazide is a very, very strong diuretic. In diazide it's mixed with triamterene, a weaker potassium sparring diuretic. If you eliminate all water by Sat morning you will look as flat as a pancake. You want to hold water, just in the right place, the muscles. What you need elumumunated is any water between the skin and the muscle that is what makes you look smooth. But no water in the muscles themselves and you will be very, very flat.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by pgc640 View Post
                  Yes all you need is 1 37.5/25 Thursday night and one Friday night if prejudgibg is Sat morning. But, do not eliminate water intake at any point. I wouldn't go lower than 6oz per hour. Hydrochlorithiazide is a very, very strong diuretic. In diazide it's mixed with triamterene, a weaker potassium sparring diuretic. If you eliminate all water by Sat morning you will look as flat as a pancake. You want to hold water, just in the right place, the muscles. What you need elumumunated is any water between the skin and the muscle that is what makes you look smooth. But no water in the muscles themselves and you will be very, very flat.
                  most i have ever needed was a 25 the night before right before bed and maybe 1/2 as soon as i get up before pre. most of the time the one before pre is not needed. it will pull off any residual sub q water over night 99% of the time
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                  • #10
                    Re: Lasix

                    Last show I did I remember running Diazide,Aladactone or maybe it was both the last week. Starting 7 days out I was also drinking 1 liter of water every hour = 3 gallons per day during the time I was awake. I pushed this much water until 7pm the night before pre judging before stopping. Because I did a few trial runs I knew I would keep pissing for the next 8-10 hours. I starting loading on high fats, simple carbs and salts around midnight. 30 min before pre judging I still couldn't fill out so I drank 2oz of water every 5 mins until the pump came back.

                    Guess what I am saying if you spend months getting ready do a few trial runs, get the timing down and for god sake don't follow advice that worked for somebody else. diuretics like slin are nothing to play with and reason I don't give advice on how to use

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                    • #11
                      Re: Lasix

                      do you have any pics from the show

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                      • #12
                        Re: Lasix

                        i wonder if i should post a pic and if anyone can guage how much i need to run

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by OlympiaSolutions View Post
                          i wonder if i should post a pic and if anyone can guage how much i need to run

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                          i forgot to mention what pumped said. pick you up some dyazide and do a couple trial runs over the weekends, just like you would for a show. that will be your best gauge to find out how much or how little you need. most people like someone already pointed out will only need 1 or 2 at most the day before or early early morning of
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                          • #14
                            Re: Lasix

                            How many are pushing h20 the last week? How many are tapering off the last week, ect?

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                              Re: Lasix

                              Originally posted by PUMPED View Post
                              How many are pushing h20 the last week? How many are tapering off the last week, ect?
                              it's funny man for me. way back when i first started out, i literally had to overload then taper off to nothing the final day in order to get dry. it sucked and i was miserable. now the last few runs i have been able to push the water and shut it down the night before and i am good to go. crazy how the body changes over time. it also goes to show that what has worked in the past doesnt always work every time. i like you always do a test run about 4-6 wks out to see how i respond and look.
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