Cytomel/T3

[mfdvr]

Considering running some T3/Cytomel. Could anyone share their experiences and results with this? I'm thinking starting at 25 for a couple weeks then maybe going to 50 depending on progress. Thanks!

[Musclemechanic76]

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Considering running some T3/Cytomel. Could anyone share their experiences and results with this? I'm thinking starting at 25 for a couple weeks then maybe going to 50 depending on progress. Thanks!

Check heart rate all day long.
That is your guild..
It will increase first 3 days or so and level off. Do not go up until close to normal range but know it will be around 90bpm normal after dosing.
Some 104 bpm normal first few days.
If it goes up too much discontinue.

I have used it serveral times with no issues and I used while suppressed from hgh.
I used 6 months at a time working to 50mcg t3 and 100mcg t4 on hgh 5iu a day.

I just came off going to only t4 1 week then iodine drops between wrist from supp shop.
Today I am on same hgh dose without t3 or t4 being I adjusted.

This is something to use with care some ramp some don't. I just used for length of time no ramp...


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[guns01]

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i personally believe it is best used with gh because of the suppression. it is a good/bad product because it will burn off fat but it doesnt discriminate from burning off muscle either, so that's the trade off. now the bad thing about it is you dont know if it is going to jack you up for an extended period of time or forever.

i do like to do like muscle does and not ramp up for when i use it now. i will have bloods done every 4-6wks while on to make sure it is keeping me optimal. i will say that mine has always bounced back after ceasing dosing but that isnt always the case for everyone. it is more harsh on women but i do personally know a few local guys that went to 50-75mcg and now they are stuck on it for life from the doc. just have to know the risk/reward and what's possible coming out the back end

[BigDawg]

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Make sure if you are going to use this, you adhere to what the above posters have mentioned. Also in addition to, or if you don't have any gh, also make sure you are using a good test as the base of your cycle because T3 will also cause a loss in lean muscle tissue as well as fat, it doesn't differentiate between the two. I've run 75MCG in the past and wasn't happy as i lost muscle as well as fat. Put far too much energy and time putting muscle on to piss it away running T3 too high. i never go above 50 now and most always keep it around 25 when i run it. Good luck.

[Musclemechanic76]

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I agree hgh is only way i use t3 and was suppressed.
I used a good bit of gear too.
Enough gear needed to stop catabolic t3 muscle eating!!!

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[mfdvr]

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Thanks guys. I'm running 4iu daily of GH, test, mast, eq and using the t3 to lean out. I am a little worried about supressing my thyroid short and long term. I'm going to stick to the 25 for a couple weeks and check the results. I realize that every step up also ups the risk of losing muscle and messing up my thyroid so I'm leaning toward the lowest dose possible. Great advice from all!

[pgc640]

Re: Cytomel/T3

Considering running some T3/Cytomel. Could anyone share their experiences and results with this? I'm thinking starting at 25 for a couple weeks then maybe going to 50 depending on progress. Thanks!

I always stay really lean but if I have a vacation coming up or something I'll take 25 MCG a day of t 3 for like 3 weeks. It all depends on your metabolism some people can get away with 12.5 mcgs I can do that actually. I've never gone as high as 50 but I've known guys that have gone as high as a hundred so it all depends on your body but it will take fat off you.

[jipped genes]

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So say one was to use the t3 and not use GH but a moderate dose of test and say deca. WOuld this be anti catabolic enough to help preserve muscle? What about peptides in lieu of GH. I cannot afford GH.

[pgc640]

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So say one was to use the t3 and not use GH but a moderate dose of test and say deca. WOuld this be anti catabolic enough to help preserve muscle? What about peptides in lieu of GH. I cannot afford GH.

Yeah I hear you bro GH is expensive as hell. In the past I have used cytomel with GH I used cytomel at 12.5 micrograms mcgs. The GH mixed with the cytomel just melts fat off you that's definitely true. But, yes you can use T3 without GH and not go into a catabolic state. Remember you're taking testosterone which is anti-catabolic and deca which is anti catabolic and using a low dose of cytomel if it's 25 micrograms. The only thing that it's going to do is Rev your metabolism it's not going to burn muscle. I mean that's my experience anyway. I can't speak for anybody else. Thing you could do is start with 12.5 and see how it works for you. I mean a lot of guys on these boards say anything under 25 is useless, I don't think that's true because I've had results and gotten results from 12.5 micrograms. after a few weeks at 12.5 you can increase it 2 twenty five MCG. You could even go as high as 50 but I wouldn't go higher than that. It also depends on your metabolism I don't know you so I don't know how fast your metabolism is. I have a very fast metabolism if yours is slower a higher dose of T3 is going to be less catabolic to you than it would be to me. Everybody is so different it's so hard to come up with a program that applies to everybody. Really what you have to do is experiment and learn your own body and what works for you. There's also a theory out there that a small amount of T3, taken during a bulking cycle, say like 12.5 mcgs, will increase nutrient synthesis because that's what T3 does. It takes all the nutrition you put in your body and uses it a lot more optimally. That's a controversial Theory though and I'm not sure if it really works I've never tried it myself I've known guys that have but again it's something up to you if you would want to throw it in during a bulking cycle. It's also good during a bulking cycle because it will keep you somewhat lean if your not eating entirely clean.

[Musclemechanic76]

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So say one was to use the t3 and not use GH but a moderate dose of test and say deca. WOuld this be anti catabolic enough to help preserve muscle? What about peptides in lieu of GH. I cannot afford GH.

Definately, enough gear works syntergesic with t3.... food metabolism shuttling with fat loss and muscle growth off chain...
T3 on bulkers I end up like my avatar pic and with cutting end up ripped as hell....
Honestly diet... I can eat alot more either way and always have desert

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[Musclemechanic76]

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Yeah I hear you bro GH is expensive as hell. In the past I have used cytomel with GH I used cytomel at 12.5 micrograms mcgs. The GH mixed with the cytomel just melts fat off you that's definitely true. But, yes you can use T3 without GH and not go into a catabolic state. Remember you're taking testosterone which is anti-catabolic and deca which is anti catabolic and using a low dose of cytomel if it's 25 micrograms. The only thing that it's going to do is Rev your metabolism it's not going to burn muscle. I mean that's my experience anyway. I can't speak for anybody else. Thing you could do is start with 12.5 and see how it works for you. I mean a lot of guys on these boards say anything under 25 is useless, I don't think that's true because I've had results and gotten results from 12.5 micrograms. after a few weeks at 12.5 you can increase it 2 twenty five MCG. You could even go as high as 50 but I wouldn't go higher than that. It also depends on your metabolism I don't know you so I don't know how fast your metabolism is. I have a very fast metabolism if yours is slower a higher dose of T3 is going to be less catabolic to you than it would be to me. Everybody is so different it's so hard to come up with a program that applies to everybody. Really what you have to do is experiment and learn your own body and what works for you. There's also a theory out there that a small amount of T3, taken during a bulking cycle, say like 12.5 mcgs, will increase nutrient synthesis because that's what T3 does. It takes all the nutrition you put in your body and uses it a lot more optimally. That's a controversial Theory though and I'm not sure if it really works I've never tried it myself I've known guys that have but again it's something up to you if you would want to throw it in during a bulking cycle. It's also good during a bulking cycle because it will keep you somewhat lean if your not eating entirely clean.

With enough gear and t3 at say 25-50mcg...
Use t3 alone with no hgh!! Dose of t3 depends on fat loss.
WITH
Test 600wk
Deca 500wk
Adrol 50mg a day u will become s beast I never knew. Run those 3 for 8 weeks...
U will have Abs and be BIGGER!!
t3 plays important role in shuttling food with gear and u don't need that much gear.
Any blast and u good...
I would run with blast for duration of blast and taper at end of blast on cruise...
12.5mcg t3 a start work up slower than ramp method.. 25-50mcg plenty for slower fat loss and nutrition shuttling with gear.

T3 gets oxygen to cells and food ready. The trick is get anabolic then once fat loss in noticed up cals and macros!!! Look out!!
19Nors in mix work best too because they lower t3 in body and this increases prolactin!!!! A cruise dose with good dose of 50mg anavar and 500wk primo even enough to keep anabolic, but most importantly enough food!!

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[pgc640]

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With enough gear and t3 at say 25-50mcg...
Use t3 alone with no hgh!! Dose of t3 depends on fat loss.
WITH
Test 600wk
Deca 500wk
Adrol 50mg a day u will become s beast I never knew. Run those 3 for 8 weeks...
U will have Abs and be BIGGER!!
t3 plays important role in shuttling food with gear and u don't need that much gear.
Any blast and u good...
I would run with blast for duration of blast and taper at end of blast on cruise...
12.5mcg t3 a start work up slower than ramp method.. 25-50mcg plenty for slower fat loss and nutrition shuttling with gear.

T3 gets oxygen to cells and food ready. The trick is get anabolic then once fat loss in noticed up cals and macros!!! Look out!!
19Nors in mix work best too because they lower t3 in body and this increases prolactin!!!! A cruise dose with good dose of 50mg anavar and 500wk primo even enough to keep anabolic, but most importantly enough food!!

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That's exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks for being able to put it into words for me. But T3 definitely helps any cycle weather a cutting cycle for a contest or a cycle to put on muscle. Like you said T3 shuttles nutrients and allows them to work as optimally as possible. But, don't you think that on a bulking cycle you would want to keep the T3 at a lower dose say no more than 25 MCG? Another thing he's right about is it doesn't matter what you take if you're on the T3 and you're eating well you can look like a ripped beast on Anadrol and test. And that's while you are eating a ton of calories so, it's something I've really never tried but I've read a lot about and after reading these comments I'm thinking I may try it on my next muscle building program.

[pgc640]

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One other thing I have to mention about T3 is the myth that it's going to shut your thyroid down forever. I'm not a doctor or an endocrinologist but I've seen enough guys run T3 for years at a time and just stop and have absolutely no problem. So, yes it's not scientific evidence I'm giving you but it's what I've witnessed over the last 20 years. If you can do it at all it is very difficult to shut your thyroid down forever.

[Musclemechanic76]

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One other thing I have to mention about T3 is the myth that it's going to shut your thyroid down forever. I'm not a doctor or an endocrinologist but I've seen enough guys run T3 for years at a time and just stop and have absolutely no problem. So, yes it's not scientific evidence I'm giving you but it's what I've witnessed over the last 20 years. If you can do it at all it is very difficult to shut your thyroid down forever.

U are correct and there is real evidence on people who have even been misdiagnosed and were on t3 for 15 years got off and thyroid fine!!
Thyroid is a working gland 24-7 whether one is adding or replacing t3...
It's not the same type of shutdown from neg feedback that affects testicles and pituitary signals with Anabolic Steroids!!

Also in lots of cases the use of T3 has aided in fat loss then after coming off..... thyroid keeps a better output than before. It's very much indeed possible to fix our metabolic rate with a course of t3, and our rate stay up rather than returning the way it was if it were slow....

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[Musclemechanic76]

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That's exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks for being able to put it into words for me. But T3 definitely helps any cycle weather a cutting cycle for a contest or a cycle to put on muscle. Like you said T3 shuttles nutrients and allows them to work as optimally as possible. But, don't you think that on a bulking cycle you would want to keep the T3 at a lower dose say no more than 25 MCG? Another thing he's right about is it doesn't matter what you take if you're on the T3 and you're eating well you can look like a ripped beast on Anadrol and test. And that's while you are eating a ton of calories so, it's something I've really never tried but I've read a lot about and after reading these comments I'm thinking I may try it on my next muscle building program.

Gear and enough t3 not too much but enough... u will become a fat burning machine with a metabolism to have food nutrition shuttling available for gear to have at cells. Sluggish metabolism will be limited
The trick to grow beyond with gear is t3, hgh gear and enough food... too much food can put in unwanted pounds but t3 food macros can be consumed at higher rate and will be used up!!
Yes protien synthesis great but fasted rate and more macros is ticket...
This is especially true when growing while becoming lower in bf%.

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