What's the most

[ottorotvic]

Re: What's the most

You either quarter squatted it or you are a liar. I'll go with number 1. No amount of AAS in the world got you a deep (or even somewhat deep) 600 lb squat at 185 and 17-18 years old after 3 years of use and training.

When you say "there are guys who can bench 1000 lbs but I can't squat 600" you are forgetting that those men use bench shirts which give them 300-400 lbs on what the can do unequipped.

It's so easy to say what you say because of course, you no longer "go heavy" on squats, am I right?

[ottorotvic]

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Alright, I'm gonna let this go. I'm new here, I don't know you. What ev. It's just VERY hard to beleive, and I've heard some shit.

[T-Man007]

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I'm sure you've heard some shit and I can tell you, this was no sorry ass 1/4 squat. The knee goes to 90 degress or it doesn't count. That's how we did it. Look, I'm sorry it's so hard for you to believe but it's true, plain and simple. Also, I was almost 19 and I had been training for almost 4 years and like I said, I just always had very strong legs. Always. Now, take someone with good leg genetics, give them aas and there you go. It really is that simple. You can't base everyones ability by the norm bro. Some people are just going to be able to do things better than others. My thing was squats and deads. I couldn't bench to save my life, but I could squat and I could pull.

As for the comments on the guys with bench shirts, ok, take the 400 pounds off and you are going to tell me that some guy's arms are stronger than another guys legs? That's not logical at all bro. Even back in HS I had legs that were in the mid 20's in inches. I'm not full of shit, I just have big strong legs. Always have. I really don't know what else to tell you other than what I said above and that is, what do I have to gain by lying about something like this? Nothing, and if you ask around, you will see I'm not someone who brags about my lifts, I don't find it necessary to share my lifts, all I did was honestly respond to a thread about personaly accomplishments and just because it's not something you could do, I must me a liar or use poor form. I don't question your ability to squat 700 at 198, do I? I don't question your ability to bench 455 at 198, do I? The most I think I ever benched was about 315 but just because I couldn't do 400 doesn't mean I doubt your ability to do it.

And yes, if you know anything about aas, you would know that someone taking test and drol together will get strong as a phukin ox. Nothing makes you stronger than drol, other than maybe halo. But, you take a kid who's test levels are through the roof, give him aas and a strength coach and he can do big things. By the way, our weight training coach was a strength coach so we didn't do bullshit form. It was right or it didn't count and he judged each lift.

[T-Man007]

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You either quarter squatted it or you are a liar. I'll go with number 1. No amount of AAS in the world got you a deep (or even somewhat deep) 600 lb squat at 185 and 17-18 years old after 3 years of use and training.

When you say "there are guys who can bench 1000 lbs but I can't squat 600" you are forgetting that those men use bench shirts which give them 300-400 lbs on what the can do unequipped.

It's so easy to say what you say because of course, you no longer "go heavy" on squats, am I right?

Prior to my Achilles tear in Sept the heaviest I would go is 405 for 8 reps. I don't call that heavy, but some may. I think of 5 reps and under as heavy sets. I actually get better growth in the quads from reps in the 12 to 15 range. Don't know why, that's just what they respond best to. I usually alternate rep schemes but try not to go lower than 8 reps.

[T-Man007]

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ottorotvic,

I was doing some research and you do realize that the High School squat record is over 900 pounds, right? The record broke 900 pounds in the early 90's, which is the same time I did a measly 600. So, you are telling me that a none aas user could squat over 900 and an aas user couldn't hit 600? I don't know, maybe you've never used drol and don't quite know just how strong it can make you. Anyways, I just wanted to let you know that there are kids out there who did a hell of a lot more than me, over 50% more, with probably the same amount of training under their belt as me. Oh, and without aas too.

[ottorotvic]

Re: What's the most

ottorotvic,

I was doing some research and you do realize that the High School squat record is over 900 pounds, right? The record broke 900 pounds in the early 90's, which is the same time I did a measly 600. So, you are telling me that a none aas user could squat over 900 and an aas user couldn't hit 600? I don't know, maybe you've never used drol and don't quite know just how strong it can make you. Anyways, I just wanted to let you know that there are kids out there who did a hell of a lot more than me, over 50% more, with probably the same amount of training under their belt as me. Oh, and without aas too.

That 900 lbs is a Super heavyweight record, IN GEAR. Not done raw at 190 lbs. There is an unfathomable difference.

Who are these kids out there who did "50%" more??? That's 900 lbs, raw. You're saying that there are teenagers, of the same BW as you at the ime, who could squat 900 raw?

[T-Man007]

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That 900 lbs is a Super heavyweight record, IN GEAR. Not done raw at 190 lbs. There is an unfathomable difference.

Who are these kids out there who did "50%" more??? That's 900 lbs, raw. You're saying that there are teenagers, of the same BW as you at the ime, who could squat 900 raw?

No, I never said they were the same weight, I said they were in High School, making the comparison that you stated no one with as little experience as me could hit 600. Look, it goes like this, if some kid, with gear or not, could squat that close to the world phuking record with only a few years experience, then some other kid (me) with aas use could hit a measly 600 pounds. Look, I don't care if you believe me or not. I did it, I phukin know I did it, and that's that. Why do you have to be such a *** about it? If you don't think I did it, who cares, I'm not trying to impress you I just wanted to contribute to the thread. But you feel the need to call me a liar? So what, you don't think it's possible, oh well.

[T-Man007]

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By the way, have you ever used drol? Just wondering because I think you grossly underestimate it's ability.

[daved150]

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sorry otto...i've known t-man for awhile, and i dont have any reason at all to doubt him. in high school i played hockey and we had a kid on the team that benched 425 and was not big, weight wise, at all. i can say, honestly, i believe him 100%.

as for me, i'm a poo-cee...my lift's are not impressive at all

[Strella]

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When I first benched 200% of my body weight at 160lbs.

[Strella]

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My buddy in highschool benched 365 @ 154 weight class. I thought that was pretty impressive.

[FUZO]

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OTTO MY MOD TMANN IS A STRAIGHT FOWARD HONEST PERSON SO IF HE SAID HE DID SOMETHING HE DID IT.OTTO AND TMANN DISCUSS THIS IN PM'S AND GET THIS SETTLED, BUTT OTTO TMANN IS A#1 AROUND HERE IN HONESTY BRO. AND KITE MENTIONED YOU VERY HIGHLY DONT DISRESPECT KITE AS A MOD HERE BY TELLING ANOTHER MOD HE DIDNT DO SOMETHING. OK THIS IS DONE

[T-Man007]

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Ok, I will get off of myself and talk about Eddie Vaughn, who just this year in October squated 506 raw in the 165.25 weight class. This took place at the 2006 Unequiped Nationals. He was drug free and unequiped.

[ottorotvic]

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Alright, I'll drop it. You've got enough people vouching for your honesty. You all know how much B.S. likes to fly around these boards, so you can understand my skepticism.

Done and done, hoss.

[FUZO]

Re: What's the most

Alright, I'll drop it. You've got enough people vouching for your honesty. You all know how much B.S. likes to fly around these boards, so you can understand my skepticism.

Done and done, hoss.

OK COOL NOW GIVE KITE A REACH AROUND AND A FINGER IN THE ASS,LOLI HEARD HE LOVES THAT ANAL STUFF