Is it possible?......

[Patriot1405]

Hey Brundel, sorry to hear about this experience. I think it is definitely possible to get close to where you were before. I say close because the body has a natural state of homeostasis that it follows. From what I understand the gear lets one push past that state in to a more super physiological level. That is why when most people stop using, they lose mass. It's the bodies way of returning to your naturally genetic state. I could be wrong, thats just how I've always understood it. Eating and training hard will always produce results. I wish you the best Brundel. Stay strong my friend!!

[BRUNDEL]

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In time you will gain the weight you want with a strict diet. Can you take aminos,bcaa's,arginine any of that stuff how about a pre workout drink or did the doc say nothing at all. If you still can take your hrt dose may I ask what dose is that and have you got any other 2nd opinions. Or did she say if you use that amount again you can have another heart attack.Hopw is your heart how are the enzymes is there any blockage or scar tissue. Tell me about your heart

THere was no warning.
THere are no signs of problems with my heart except for a low ejection fraction. 35%. It should be 55-75%. This is the amount of blood pumped out by the heart so it indicates a weak heart. But tests were taken right after a cardiac arrest.

Im sure I can take aminos.
Im not sure about the arginine because its a vasodilator. Ill probably have to steer away from stim based PWO drinks.....I made my own and the shit was strong so this is gonna be a challenge.
My prescribed dosage is 200mg weekly but I do a heavy handed 100mg e3d. Closer to 300 weekly. + Formeron as an AI daily. Low dose. THis is good for my heart as well because it keeps bloat down and BP down.
The Dr said it could have been the gear and I was on a good deal. around 3g mixed AAS.
Everything else looks normal.
HDL 40
LDL 50
all arteries clear.

[BRUNDEL]

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Yes, you can absolutely get to where you want to be with diet as the catalyst. But, and I repeat but, you have to do it in the safest possible manner now because of your medical history. You will need to watch your diet more closely, the stress you place on the body through training and through everyday life, your rest needs to be at its peak and you need to know when to back off. In a nutshell, you need to train and diet smarter then ever. But in getting to know you these past few months I will say this in all honesty. If anyone can do it, you can do it.

Any help I can be, you let me know my friend.

Thanks bro. I appreciate your support. Its good to have some friends behind be....because I have a bunch of people telling me not too.

[FUZO]

Re: Is it possible?......

In time you will gain the weight you want with a strict diet. Can you take aminos,bcaa's,arginine any of that stuff how about a pre workout drink or did the doc say nothing at all. If you still can take your hrt dose may I ask what dose is that and have you got any other 2nd opinions. Or did she say if you use that amount again you can have another heart attack.Hopw is your heart how are the enzymes is there any blockage or scar tissue. Tell me about your heart

[badcompany487]

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i think you can get at least in the ballpark just dont expect it to come super fast. but you can get there

[RockShawn]

I believe you can do it. Compounds are only an aid to a great diet and training program. Even though you've done 2g a week plus, IMHO your body wasn't using near that, I don't believe it can. You'll be extremely surprised what can be done on a TRT dose and diet and training. Honestly I got some of my best progress this prep on low doses. Well under a gram for the most part total a week.

Look up a thread started a couple of days ago about 2 week bulk cycles. I don't have the link, but baby1 put it up an it was about clean and dirty bulks, and the benefit of running a 2 week bulk (clean or dirty) followed by a 2 week cut. I think the info would be very beneficial to your goals.

You can do it an you've got a family here ready to help and motivate bro!!

[BABY1]

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My question is can I get into the same shape I was in but with no gears.

While I don't have personal experience with gear, I do believe with a clean diet you might be able to get near your goal. Not sure about in 12 weeks though. I do agree with you that diet is key to many things. You will be doing a lot of eating, lol! Here is a link to an article that you may find helpful. It certainly wouldn't hurt to include these foods in your diet and they also have many othet benefits for you.

Foods That Help Boost Testosterone | LIVESTRONG.COM

I do believe that anyone can do what they put their mind too as the mind is a very powerful thing. Best of luck to you and it will be motivating to see your progress!!!!

[6p6]

I understand the drive boss to get back to achieve to not let sleeping dogs lie...get opinions, maybe see another doc, maybe get some advise from a sports science expert, read, adapt, tinker with what you can...

We are to help my man!

[Anabolic5150]

Re: Is it possible?......

Yes, you can absolutely get to where you want to be with diet as the catalyst. But, and I repeat but, you have to do it in the safest possible manner now because of your medical history. You will need to watch your diet more closely, the stress you place on the body through training and through everyday life, your rest needs to be at its peak and you need to know when to back off. In a nutshell, you need to train and diet smarter then ever. But in getting to know you these past few months I will say this in all honesty. If anyone can do it, you can do it.

Any help I can be, you let me know my friend.

[Pittsburgh63]

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You can get back up there brother.. it's just going to take a lot more focus and dedication than it did when juicing. Just watch how fast you put that muscle back on.. too much too fast is going to stress even a healthy heart.

[BRUNDEL]

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Thanks bro. Really the goal of this thread is to motivate me.
5 more days until Im potentially cleared for training. This is what I needed to hear. I was freakishly strong and I doubt Ill retain the same strength but If I can get to roughly the same size and be under 10% Ill be satisfied. I have to go to the Olympia this year and I dont want to be fuking 190lbs.
Im NOT going on vacations right now because Im not comfortable being this small.
All my clothes drape off me......its depressing.

I have seen guys who didnt use gear gain like 20lbs in a few months with food and training. Of course they were big before and the muscle cells were there and just needed feeding and training.

[Blackfoot]

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I respect your motivation and goal to get back in the shape you once were, and I wish you well in your journey. I believe in the power of the mind and have a quote from Napoleon Hill that may give you some more inspiration: "What the mind of man can conceive and believe, it can achieve."

very nice js, very nice!

[JsJs24]

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First off, if it were me I would want to know what the doctors feel is a healthy weight to maintain and how much heavy lifting would be safe, but that's just me. As for muscle memory and the ability to gain back your weight I think it is very possible and highly likely if you train and eat properly. As for your strength, that would be very impressive if you could get back to where you were on 2g of T a week.

I have had to battle with gaining back my strength and size twice in my life due to two back surgeries for slipping the same disc (L3-L4) twice. I have very good muscle memory when natural and when on. I can't get the strength back due to my back since I have to be very careful and not go very heavy on many exercises, however I still have good definition and size depending on my diet and routine. I now look at it like a friend of mine always has; he said he would rather look like he can bench 400 lbs than actually be able to do it. As long as I can maintain good vascularity and measurements I'm content. I had to accept the fact that I probably won't ever be able to lift as much weight as I did before my second back surgery. If I slip the same disc again I will have to get my vertebra fused, thus I'm playing it safe.

I respect your motivation and goal to get back in the shape you once were, and I wish you well in your journey. I believe in the power of the mind and have a quote from Napoleon Hill that may give you some more inspiration: "What the mind of man can conceive and believe, it can achieve."

[BRUNDEL]

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I keep hearing this.
Here is how I see it.....It I do it and it kills me....its better than if I regret not doing it and die old and full of regret.
Im a warrior. I have to do it.

I wont be using any drugs not prescribed by a dr.
I do think that with food and training alone I can get at least back to the same size and under 10%

[suprfast]

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Be careful brother we only have one brundel.