is Z mass pm any good, some guy in the gym told me it works?

[rude]

does it work?

[rude]

if it does work, does it make you more toned and defined, or does it bulk you up?

[GreasyGreek]

Marketing hype - zma works in people with zinc deficiencies. There are better ways to spend your supplement money. Namely protein, creatine, and vitamins.

[prolangtum]

Zinc and magnesium, wonder nutrients!!! Yep, marketing hype.

[Speedracer59]

Didnt do shit for me.

[HeHateMe]

Originally posted by GreasyGreek
Marketing hype - zma works in people with zinc deficiencies. There are better ways to spend your supplement money. Namely protein, creatine, and vitamins.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. TC Luoma and the guys at Biotest learned from the best---our old friend Bill Phillips.

[prolangtum]

I think BioTest surpassed Douche Phillips as far as marketing hype goes. Oh, if only i was a T-man, my life would be complete.

[Sage]

Originally posted by prolangtum
I think BioTest surpassed Douche Phillips as far as marketing hype goes. Oh, if only i was a T-man, my life would be complete.

a zma supplementation i think is one of the most overly hyped supp, even for a post cycle combo. Has done nothing for me (ive tried cytodyne's zmass as well) and actually hurt my sleep. Sage

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by prolangtum
I think BioTest surpassed Douche Phillips as far as marketing hype goes. Oh, if only i was a T-man, my life would be complete.

You and me both. I dont get it? I read T-Mag regiously, I even bought the video where Milos shows you how to inject synthol! And still, I am no T-Man. They write too many damn contradicting articles. One week they have an article on how glutamine is the king of supplements, then like 2 issues later they have one on why its the biggest scam out there, odd.

[Mister b]

If you're an insomniac, it can help you sleep. No better, though, than some simple cal/mag...

Magnesium is good for sleep and for cramps...

B