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  • #16
    I just did a cycle of 1-ad and 4-ad. It was ok. Next time I will be using the real thing. You can check out my progess report on here. There is two different threads.I accidentally put the final one in the training forum. I noticed a lack of sex drive with 1-ad and add 4 ad for this.It made me a little lazy but I would pop a stacker 3 for a pre workout. My biggest gain were in strenght. Let me know what Questions you may have I will answer them as best I can.
    "There is no such thing as big pussies just little dicks. If it is loose just keep packing dick to it."

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    • #17
      Originally posted by iamcdn
      that being said, what would you suggest? what companies that is?

      BDC Nutritions 1-T Pro (1-test/4-AD combo)
      Avant Labs Super ONE+ (1-test/4-AD)
      Ergopharms 1-AD, A 4-AD product*
      Molecular Nutritions 1-Test Ethergels/ 4-AD Ether gels*

      *Denotes oral delivery. Oral delivery is no where near as effective as topical/transdermal. Transdermals are in fact cheaper and you'll more than likely see better results.

      But what I recommend more than anything is making your own homebrew 1-test/4-AD. This is simple with the recipe and quick, and VERY cost effective.

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      • #18
        my first stack i ever did was a 1ad/4ad at 600mgs a day both.4 weeks cost i think around 150$i gained 7lbs and kept 5 of lean muscle.in my opinion u should just buy some qv test.approx.60$ for 10 ml bottle.thats 5-6 weeks.if your scared of the needle,try some d-ball or a-bombs.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by woody01
          my first stack i ever did was a 1ad/4ad at 600mgs a day both.4 weeks cost i think around 150$i gained 7lbs and kept 5 of lean muscle.in my opinion u should just buy some qv test.approx.60$ for 10 ml bottle.thats 5-6 weeks.if your scared of the needle,try some d-ball or a-bombs.
          5 lean pounds in 4 weeks isnt a total waste, I dont know what you expect. If you get lackluster gains from 1-AD & 4-AD its because your training, diet, sleep or all of the above suck. Dont blame the product, more than likely, user error.

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          • #20
            i'm not blaming anything.further more i didn't mention my diet,so on what basis can you say it is the user fault.
            are you here to give the users advice or a hard time?seems like u have had a negative critique for anyone on this post.
            looking at your status on your profile,u need to be more diplomatic as to how a response is made to a member.no members...no board.
            i wonder if geared wants his board run in this manner?
            not triing to flame bro,just my opinion.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by woody01
              i'm not blaming anything.further more i didn't mention my diet,so on what basis can you say it is the user fault.
              are you here to give the users advice or a hard time?seems like u have had a negative critique for anyone on this post.
              looking at your status on your profile,u need to be more diplomatic as to how a response is made to a member.no members...no board.
              i wonder if geared wants his board run in this manner?
              not triing to flame bro,just my opinion.
              Thanks for the advice, but once again, opinions are like assholes and your's isnt relevant to me. Im sure Geared doesnt want flames on his board, but Im also sure he doesnt want ignorance either. Im here to help, not babysit. I refuse to be diplomatic, diplomacy gets you no where, thats phony, I prefer to be blunt and to the point. To each his own I suppose.

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              • #22
                yea,i guess your right,opinions are like assholes.there is always one on every board.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by woody01
                  yea,i guess your right,opinions are like assholes.there is always one on every board.
                  Not what I had in mind.... but if Im an asshole for calling you out for making an ignorant statement, then by God I am an asshole

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