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Originally posted by YellowJacket
Dont mistake 'ramblings' for the truth.
Dont mistake 'ramblings' for the truth.
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Look - the reason I attacked you was mainly because of the statement you made about fructose and OJ. The way it was stated made it sound like you were sugesting that OJ does not contain fructose. Obviously I misunderstood you. We obviously have different ideas when it comes to dieting. I think the lowish carb/timed eating aproach to be the way to go, you don't. So please, allow me to retract the statement about the "depth of your knowledge" since I apparently misunderstood you. I know my diets work as I have seen them demonstrated. I'm sorry for attacking you, and I'll try not to let dealings with you in the future become personal.The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.
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So uh....that means I win right?
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yellowjacket,
This is in no way a flame. And I happen to read alot of your posts, and I think your an A+ member of the board.
However, think it's clear what Soda was saying. He was saying this is what he is doing and it is working. No where in his post did he ask for a critique. Based on the post he's cutting with low carbs, and that is a tried and true strategy.
Again no flame, just throwing out my 1/4 cent.
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Understood, and yes, it seems the diet is going well, but could it be going better? Doesnt matter if he asked for a critique or not, he got one. When something is a bit off, why keep quiet when someone could be gaining or losing even more? Guess I dont understand.Originally posted by trip
yellowjacket,
This is in no way a flame. And I happen to read alot of your posts, and I think your an A+ member of the board.
However, think it's clear what Soda was saying. He was saying this is what he is doing and it is working. No where in his post did he ask for a critique. Based on the post he's cutting with low carbs, and that is a tried and true strategy.
Again no flame, just throwing out my 1/4 cent.
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No. It means that I don't have the patients or the desire to argue. We'll just agree to disagree, once again. Maybe I need to lay off the coffee...I'm feeling a bit 'edgy' today.Originally posted by YellowJacket
So uh....that means I win right?
The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.
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YellowJacket,
Answering your question honestly?
It is 100% easier to teach somebody something when they ask for it, and thus usually 100% more successful. Because they are open to it. When they don't ask for it, they are closed to it.
And what you stated "he would do better" is opinion, not fact.
The fact is everyone reacts differently to everything. Is their a good chance you are right, probably, but it is not a fact. The fact is he is happy, and that is a rare commodity.
Critiquing something when not asked for is often times seen by the other person as CRITICISM, so it is not who is right or wrong, it's all about perception. They often see and feel the critique as the other person being AROGANT.
In no way do I think this of you in any way, and my best guess based on your posts is that you are one of the least arrogant bro's around. Just showing how differently people see things differintly.
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I do sometimes eat rice cakes and oatmel.As for the pumps they r great,but I'm on winny,tren,prop,and eq.The 12 egg whites is a lot but it seems to be workin so far.Thanks for all the inputComment
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Wasnt teaching anything man, just adding on. And he obviously wanted to be taught or he wouldnt have asked Goliath to do it to begin with huh? I didnt sit down and re-do the entire diet, I just added on where I deemed necessary, does Soda have to follow my advice? Hell no, just giving a different opinion.Originally posted by trip
YellowJacket,
Answering your question honestly?
It is 100% easier to teach somebody something when they ask for it, and thus usually 100% more successful. Because they are open to it. When they don't ask for it, they are closed to it.
Now see, you're beginning to piss me off also, please quote me where I said this....And what you stated "he would do better" is opinion, not fact.
(hint: you cant)
Once again, I didnt critique this particularly for Soda, he's an intelligent guy, he knows what's what... for anyone else coming into this thread looking to make a diet for themselves, thats my main purpose for being in this thread, that and to insure no 'off target' advice is being given in the future.The fact is everyone reacts differently to everything. Is their a good chance you are right, probably, but it is not a fact. The fact is he is happy, and that is a rare commodity.
This is a public message board brother, I font have to be asked. Granted next time, I will keep out and let mediocre advice be given, pardon me. Its not up to me how he takes my minor 'critique' and to be honest, doesnt really mean anything to me how he takes it, because you're supposed to take it for what its worth. Goliath doesnt know everything, I dont know everything, you dont know everything, anyone can learn from anyone. Maybe next time Goliath will implement some of my advice into his dietary feedbacks.Critiquing something when not asked for is often times seen by the other person as CRITICISM, so it is not who is right or wrong, it's all about perception. They often see and feel the critique as the other person being AROGANT.
Oh and I never saw arrogance as a flaw, sorry.
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How was my advice "off-target"? Just because we come from different schools of thought does not make me right and you wrong or visa-versa. I like the lower carb aproach, you apparently don't. Big deal. I must admit though - if someone posted your diet I would probably go in and start saying - "oatmeal or branflakes for breakfast? Are you headed to the gym straight away?". I just don't agree with your diet strategy man.The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.
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Yellowjacket,
My apologies.
Good Luck
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Originally posted by goliath.jr
How was my advice "off-target"? Just because we come from different schools of thought does not make me right and you wrong or visa-versa. I like the lower carb aproach, you apparently don't. Big deal. I must admit though - if someone posted your diet I would probably go in and start saying - "oatmeal or branflakes for breakfast? Are you headed to the gym straight away?". I just don't agree with your diet strategy man.
Or some of us actually went to school
I didnt even see a macronutrient breakdown, or total caloric intake, how many calories under his basal metabolic rate was that diet plan?
I also preach low carb when cutting, I think everyone does, but your body has to have carbs, why not take a good amount of them in early? So you have the rest of the day for other substrate utilization, i.e. fat.
Please do pick my diet apart, I dont mind at all, but it better be for sound reasons, not opinion. My 'critique' was backed up with facts, and what I thought was common knowledge, I will be happy to provide references and testimonials of my dietary measurements for folks around the boards.
Eat complex carbs and head to the gym? Oh my god! whats your qualm with that? Sure beats a fructose filled apple. LoL.Comment
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Because if you consume carbs early in the day, what is your body going to burn for fuel when all of those carbs have not been spent by some sort of phsical exertion? C'mon, you have a degree in nutrition right ?Originally posted by YellowJacket
I also preach low carb when cutting, I think everyone does, but your body has to have carbs, why not take a good amount of them in early? So you have the rest of the day for other substrate utilization, i.e. fat. You know the answer. It will burn the carbs you just ate instead of fat stores.
I'm done with this thread. We will never see eye-to-eye on this. We are talking in circles.
The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.
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Hey, looks to me like Soda is on a "good" plan that is working for him which is great! However YJ is only tyring to make it "perfect". I never heard YJ say that the diet sucked, he just added some comments on how to make it better. Soda can either take his suggestions, or continue on how he is going.
Plus I learned a lot of things from this thread so far, so you guys just continue to debate all you want, just don't get mad at each other
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wtf? Do you actually read what you type when you're done? So uh.... why not eat your complex carbs early, go to the gym, after an intense workout, you'll burn the majority of those off (not to mention lifting on an empty stomach is a terrible idea) and in case you dont know, but during intense weight training, or cardio, you'll actually burn more calories after you're done than during. So my stance is quite logical and backed with science, (HIIT, et. al). You need a good lesson in your bodies energy expenditures brother. And you still refuse to answer my question on why there's no caloric overview and no total caloric intake number? How the hell can you lay someone out a diet and not even tell them how many calories, carbs, fat and protein is in it? Weak.Originally posted by goliath.jr
Because if you consume carbs early in the day, what is your body going to burn for fuel when all of those carbs have not been spent by some sort of phsical exertion? C'mon, you have a degree in nutrition right ? You know the answer. It will burn the carbs you just ate instead of fat stores.
You were done with this thread a few posts back, dont leave now, I have questions I need answered, teach me.I'm done with this thread. We will never see eye-to-eye on this. We are talking in circles.
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He works out in the evening.Originally posted by YellowJacket
wtf? Do you actually read what you type when you're done? So uh.... why not eat your complex carbs early, go to the gym, after an intense workout, you'll burn the majority of those off (not to mention lifting on an empty stomach is a terrible idea) and in case you dont know, but during intense weight training, or cardio, you'll actually burn more calories after you're done than during.
Your not my brother. I think you're an asshole that just likes to argue. It's becoming very obvious.So my stance is quite logical and backed with science, (HIIT, et. al). You need a good lesson in your bodies energy expenditures brother.
This was given when I PM'ed the diet to him. He didn't post it, and I don't have it in front of me.And you still refuse to answer my question on why there's no caloric overview and no total caloric intake number?
See above.How the hell can you lay someone out a diet and not even tell them how many calories, carbs, fat and protein is in it? Weak.
You were done with this thread a few posts back, dont leave now, I have questions I need answered, teach me.
I want to saty away. Really I do, but I guess I just can't turn my back on a guy like you.The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.
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