ultimate ornage?

[BigSoda]

Is there anywhere u can buy it anymore?

[Keiser]

I hope not....

[YellowJacket]

Doubtful, theres a new formula, which blows, but good luck finding the original ultimate orange.

[Speedracer59]

Vitamin World sells a knock off product with pretty much the same stuff in it. I cant remember the name off hand but Ill try to get it.

[Keiser]

"Todd Weger, a career Army soldier and Gulf War vet, had been using an ephedra product called Ultimate Orange for a year and a half when he had a stroke on a gym treadmill in Fort Polk, La. He suffered brain damage and lost use of his left arm, ending his military career."

[Speedracer59]

I think it is called extreme orange.

[BigSoda]

thanks

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by LadiesMan
"Todd Weger, a career Army soldier and Gulf War vet, had been using an ephedra product called Ultimate Orange for a year and a half when he had a stroke on a gym treadmill in Fort Polk, La. He suffered brain damage and lost use of his left arm, ending his military career."

At what doses? And ore-existing medical conditions?

Not to be an asshole but shit like this is inevitable as long as you have ignorant people in the world. Sure this could have been a freak accident, but those odds are fairly low. People love to look towards ephedrine and other stimulants as a scapegoat for death and serious medical illnesses. Just like the fat ass baseball player who recently passed away and everyone wants to blame Xenadrine, although he's 30lbs over weight, seriously dehydrated and family has a history of cardiovascular disease, sure it was the ephedrine

Its all about accountability, no one wants to take any, take the easy way out and blame the pill, thats so lame.

[Keiser]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
At what doses? And ore-existing medical conditions?

Not to be an asshole but shit like this is inevitable as long as you have ignorant people in the world. Sure this could have been a freak accident, but those odds are fairly low. People love to look towards ephedrine and other stimulants as a scapegoat for death and serious medical illnesses. Just like the fat ass baseball player who recently passed away and everyone wants to blame Xenadrine, although he's 30lbs over weight, seriously dehydrated and family has a history of cardiovascular disease, sure it was the ephedrine

Its all about accountability, no one wants to take any, take the easy way out and blame the pill, thats so lame.

Well, you nor I know exactly what caused it, but I would rather be safe than sorry.

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by LadiesMan
Well, you nor I know exactly what caused it, but I would rather be safe than sorry.

So you dont drive? Becuase you know you can die at any moment while driving. You dont go in the sun often do you? Becuase you can develope skin cancer from it. Point being, a lot of things in life can kill you (something you have no choice but to do, like drive) but its a personal choice. I feel like Im educated enough and in good enough shape to use ephedrine properly, obviously these guys werent (granted he was dosing it at 200mgs a day). So as for 'rather safe than sorry' that goes for many things in life you and I still do, accountability and education negate this infamous golden rule

[bigjim33]

ladiesman, i have to disagree with you to some degree.....if he died it was because there was some condition, or because he abused it. using an ephedrine product for 1.5 years straight! come on that is not smart. i like the ultimate orange when it was around