gyno and prohormones

[toxic_power]

I'm a little new to the info I have seen about the side effects from M1-T but I have another question. I've taken prohormones before and just wanted to know if they would cause gyno or not? I took 1-AD, 19-Nor and a few others. Any info would be great

Thanks everyone

[Speedracer59]

YEs they can always have an somthing on hand for an anti-e and pct.

[Cipher]

Yes they most certainly do cause gyno. Most of them will also shut you down so its a good idea to have nolva or clomid on hand for pct.

Ciph

[NPursuit]

Nolva for gyno treatment
Nolva or Clomid for post cycle therapy

[jipped genes]

M1T = no gyno. it dosnt aromatize so no estrogen. thats why it is best stacked with 4ad

19 nor can convert i would just have nolva around if you do a prohormone that converts. gyno is much rarer with PHs than real gear so i bet your OK

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by jipped genes
M1T = no gyno. it dosnt aromatize so no estrogen. thats why it is best stacked with 4ad

19 nor can convert i would just have nolva around if you do a prohormone that converts. gyno is much rarer with PHs than real gear so i bet your OK

Estrogen rebound can cause gyno with M1T during PCT. I've heard of a few cases already.

[toxic_power]

So should I take my M1-T and 4ad together when on cycle and then when i'm off run my nolva for 2 weeks or should I constantly run the nolva on and off cycle and at what dosages?

[NPursuit]

Well to start off M1T is a steroid not a prohormone. It is very potent and to most causes a lot of side effects. Post up your stats and goals for this cycle and I'll help you determine dosages better.

[toxic_power]

I dont' have any stats except that I weigh about 212 and am 5-9. My bf is high but i'm not fat at all, well maybe in the midsection but other than that i'm good. I eat very clean most of the time 5-6 meals a day with rice, chicken being the heart of my diet. I plan on cutting down a little in the summer to maybe 190 or so after I have done a cycle of M1-T. Let me know what I should do for a cycle. I'm planning on getting the gel and powder from customnutrition.com and making my own transdermal and getting nolva from customnutritonwarehouse.com. Do you take the nolva with anything or just straight in the mouth? I'm still in the phase of gathering info so when I do this cycle I do it right. I've seen other postings of dosages and such but i'm not sure if I can follow those guidelines. I'm looking for very high gains or as much as I can get off M1-T and still retain the muscle I get without taking a dive after my cycle. Hope this is enough info even though it's probably not what you were looking for he he.

[NPursuit]

I would run the following. Keep in mind you should do a lot more reading on these compounds and learn the best ways to apply transdermals.

M1T = 10mg for 2-4 weeks. If you suffer from 1-test lethargy take it 1-2 hours before bed.
4-AD = 400mg for length of M1T. Split your doses as close to 12 hours apart @ 200mg each dosing.

Other supps to alleviate the side effects of M1T
Potassium
Taurine
Hawthorn Berry
NAC & or Milk Thistle

Nolva - take all at once at night
40mg wk 1
20mg wk 2

Now if you run a 4 week M1T & 4-AD cycle then use the following Nolva protocol
40mg wk 1-2
20mg wk 3-4

If the Nolva is unflavored I usually put it in a shot glass with juice and slam it down. You can buy flavored version though that taste pretty good.

[jipped genes]

Originally posted by saturn
Good advise NPursuit....

no shit. i wouldnt think 2 weeks would give you a huge rebound but i trust you bro . but your chance of gyno directly from PH is very low unless you are super sensitive and you would have known that from puberty

[Skarn]

Originally posted by NPursuit
Well to start off M1T is a steroid not a prohormone. It is very potent and to most causes a lot of side effects. Post up your stats and goals for this cycle and I'll help you determine dosages better.

I don't think M1T is technically considered a steriod....or else it wouldn't be sold legally in supplement stores.

"Methyl 1-testosterone, or 17aa-1-testosterone, is the methylated version of the steroid 1-testosterone...feedback on this compound indicates that it may be the most effective legal prohormone/steroid product on the market regardless of delivery method".

But from the results and sides I've seen in my research, it does indeed seem to be more of a steriod than a prohormone!

Skarn

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by Skarn
I don't think M1T is technically considered a steriod....or else it wouldn't be sold legally in supplement stores.

"Methyl 1-testosterone, or 17aa-1-testosterone, is the methylated version of the steroid 1-testosterone...feedback on this compound indicates that it may be the most effective legal prohormone/steroid product on the market regardless of delivery method".

But from the results and sides I've seen in my research, it does indeed seem to be more of a steriod than a prohormone!

Skarn

It is a steroid because it does not have to convert into anything. Prohormones are precursors to steroids.