1ad/4ad stack

[grandfinale03]

I'm new to prohormones, and i was wondering when i should take 4ad. While on 1ad or after? I'd probably be using 600 mg 1ad. I havent started yet, but i want to get all of the info i can before i start. I want to do it right. Also, After the first cycle, take 6oxo right? Ive seen pics of gyno and it looks like some nasty stuff. If any1 had any schedules that they follow that could help me, let me know! thanx for the help. I dont know if this helps, but i use protein 3x a day between meals so that its all spaced out about 3 hrs apart.

[NPursuit]

600mg of 1-AD for 4-6 weeks is a good first cycle. Stacking 4-AD with it will help decrease the potential sides of the 1-AD. I would look into either Ergo's Androdiol for an oral or get a transdermal 4-AD product from powernutrition or dermabolics. 4-AD has poor bioavailability orally, so it's not very effective and a large dose is required. If you go the oral route 900mg is effective to keep the side effects lowered. 400mg is sufficient with a transdermal.


60X0 is sufficient for this stack. Run 2 bottles at the following protocol.
wk 1-600mg
wk 2-400mg
wk 3 to 4-300mg

[Cipher]

Good info N

Ciph

[Speedracer59]

Originally posted by NPursuit
600mg of 1-AD for 4-6 weeks is a good first cycle. Stacking 4-AD with it will help decrease the potential sides of the 1-AD. I would look into either Ergo's Androdiol for an oral or get a transdermal 4-AD product from powernutrition or dermabolics. 4-AD has poor bioavailability orally, so it's not very effective and a large dose is required. If you go the oral route 900mg is effective to keep the side effects lowered. 400mg is sufficient with a transdermal.


60X0 is sufficient for this stack. Run 2 bottles at the following protocol.
wk 1-600mg
wk 2-400mg
wk 3 to 4-300mg

Looks pretty good but I still say for a beginner a 2in 1 transdermal is the way to go. It is Cheaper and easier. t-1 t-1 pro or s1+. I just dont believe in dropping 35 bucks a bottle (2bottles are going to be needed for the above cycle Im pretty sure) for 1-ad when you can get the 1test (which is superior) and 4-ad rolled in 1 for less than 35 bucks.

[Cipher]

I also agree with that but the thread starter said he was using 1-AD and 4-AD.

Ciph

[Speedracer59]

He said he hasnt started yet. I he has it already take it like NP said of course.

[Cipher]

You are correct...i read that post like 4 times and still didnt see it

Ciph

[Speedracer59]

I do that alot

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by Speedracer59
Looks pretty good but I still say for a beginner a 2in 1 transdermal is the way to go. It is Cheaper and easier. t-1 t-1 pro or s1+. I just dont believe in dropping 35 bucks a bottle (2bottles are going to be needed for the above cycle Im pretty sure) for 1-ad when you can get the 1test (which is superior) and 4-ad rolled in 1 for less than 35 bucks.

I completely agree. I also read it as he had the 1-AD already. Also I know a lot of people don't like dealing with a transdermal and try to stick to the oral route.

[grandfinale03]

Thanks!

Thanks for the help! I'll probably start tomorrow. If by transdermal u mean needle... i'd rather stay away from that. My final questions... is clenbutrx a decent fat burner? I heard it tastes like shit (the liquid form) but it really works. I picked up IDs 1-ad today... they got a license from ergo to make it. I also bought their 4-ad. When during the day is the best time to take the 4-ad? the pills are in 300mg size, and it recomends 1-2 caps 2 times a day. Again i appreciate all of the help. I'll keep every1 posted with feedback.

[NPursuit]

Transdermal is a rub on lotion application. It allows the androgens to penetrate through the skin. It's very effective and cheap.

Clenbutrx is the best ephedra fat burner IMO. Personally I think it tastes pretty good, but a lot of people think it's nasty.

Take your 1-AD and 4-AD 3 times a day
200mg 1-AD
300mg 4-AD

[NPursuit]

BTW I would lay off the clenbutrx while on cycle unless your goal of this cycle is for cutting purposes.