M1T Questions...

[NPursuit]

I would expect you to start feeling it 2-3 days in. It is a very fast acting compound. 4-AD however will take a couple of weeks to see any benefits besides the initial water gain. It will act fast enough to help alleviate the sides of the M1T though. Some people front load the 4-AD to help even more. A 4-AD transdermal from powernutrition/bdc or dermabolics is your best bet.

[Speedracer59]

Originally posted by NPursuit
. A 4-AD transdermal from powernutrition/bdc or dermabolics is your best bet.

There ya go. I have heard they have been having a little trouble from BDC but if you can their "build your own transdermal is the way to go. Nothing wrong with dermabolics either.

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by Speedracer59
There ya go. I have heard they have been having a little trouble from BDC but if you can their "build your own transdermal is the way to go. Nothing wrong with dermabolics either.

Yeah they are out of T-gel at the moment. I'm sure it will be available again soon.

[Th3w0rld1sm1ne]

Originally posted by NPursuit
Forget VPX's M1T. If anything the polylipid delivery system hinders the bioavailability of the M1T.

Hey bro,

What makes you say that? Do you have any evidence to back that up or is it just an opinion?

I'm not calling you out by any means, i'm asking because i was thinking about ordering some VPX m1t and your post made me think twice. Any info you have about it would be great!

Thanks bro!

[Cipher]

Originally posted by Th3w0rld1sm1ne
Hey bro,

What makes you say that? Do you have any evidence to back that up or is it just an opinion?

I'm not calling you out by any means, i'm asking because i was thinking about ordering some VPX m1t and your post made me think twice. Any info you have about it would be great!

Thanks bro!

Dont bro, there is better out there for alot cheaper.

Avoid VPX unless someone gives it to you.

Ciph

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by Th3w0rld1sm1ne
Hey bro,

What makes you say that? Do you have any evidence to back that up or is it just an opinion?

I'm not calling you out by any means, i'm asking because i was thinking about ordering some VPX m1t and your post made me think twice. Any info you have about it would be great!

Thanks bro!

I read an article on it. I'll see if I can dig it up. Remember methylating a compound increases it's bioavailability to near 100%, so there is no need to encase it in a polylipid. Even VPX will say they had planned on putting out a capsulated version but wanted to get M1T on the market, and of course by using their polylipid delivery they can justify charging 3 times as much.

[Cipher]

Precisely so I say go for Legal Gears, Kilosports etc etc unless you have have some extra money and wanted to spend very very stupidly

Ciph

[bactuffguy]

i take 10mg/day of m-1-t, and 2 protien shakes a day...i just got in some milk thistle for the liver, and some 4-ad powder, can someone give advice on the dosages? this is what im doing = Milk thistle 400mg/day, 4-ad powder 600mg/day...do yall think these are good amounts too low or too high...i think the milk thistle is too low...any advice please...

[Th3w0rld1sm1ne]

Originally posted by NPursuit
I read an article on it. I'll see if I can dig it up. Remember methylating a compound increases it's bioavailability to near 100%, so there is no need to encase it in a polylipid. Even VPX will say they had planned on putting out a capsulated version but wanted to get M1T on the market, and of course by using their polylipid delivery they can justify charging 3 times as much.

I did some research on "methylating" compounds and learned a lot... You make a good point, one that I wanted to take to vpx and get their response.

I called a bro that has a wholesale license and sells sups online etc... he gets vpx at dist cost and has a close working relationship with one of their reps. I asked him to ask vpx some hard questions on their M1t and why the delivery system was necessary or justified given that it was already methylated, and thus already at near maximum bioavailability.

Their response was, basically what you said... methylating a compound makes it extremely bioavailible, in any formulation. His only defense, according to my friend was: "But the delivery system can't hurt". Obviously, the guy couldn't justify the ridiculous cost.

I owe you one bro, thanks for the good advice... I love this board. Thanks to you too ciph.

I'd found some M1t before for 9.99 in some places, but I’ve always felt like you get what you pay for. With M1t, that doesn't seem to be the case... good news for my wallet.

[NPursuit]

Glad to hear you went and did your own follow up research. That is key to your success. Always question the answers. FYI I have my resources at VPX and some other supp companies. I do my best to make sure I don't post something that hasn't been proven.